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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/14] ARM: v6k: use CPU domain feature if we include support for arch < ARMv6K
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:05:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110128130532.GC13005@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1296217518.1799.59.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:25:18PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:06 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46:51AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 09:59 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 09:46:06AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > > My point is that we may want SWP_EMULATE disabled (or depending on !
> > > > > CPU_USE_DOMAINS). With domains enabled every read-only user page is
> > > > > writeable by the kernel. This has the side-effect that SWP emulation
> > > > > using LDREX/STREX breaks COW.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and maybe we should instead just enable the SWP instruction by default
> > > > on ARMv7, and if SWP emulation is built, disable it at that point.
> > >
> > > We can't disable the SWP instruction as long as domains are enabled (COW
> > > not working for in-kernel STREX).
> > >
> > > On ARMv7 we could always force R/O kernel/user pages in set_pte_ext
> > > independent of the domains setting and have early_trap_init() use
> > > vectors_page() if cpu_architecture() >= 7 (this would actually catch
> > > ARM11MPCore as well because of the way we interpret CPUID).
> > 
> > What about a kernel covering ARMv6 too?  Writing to an aliased mapping
> > of the vectors page (as required for TLS emulation) will require
> > additional cache maintainence on every context switch.
> 
> With your latest patches, do we use the TLS emulation on ARMv7 (UP) if
> v6 is compiled in? If that's the case, we may have a problem - I talked
> to the toolchain guys and it looks like code optimised for ARMv7 reads
> the TLS register directly without going through the kuser helper.

That's not a problem, because you wouldn't run ARMv7 optimized userspace
on an ARMv6 CPU.  That's not what this whole exercise is about.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 11/14] ARM: v6k: use CPU domain feature if we include support for arch < ARMv6K
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:05:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110128130532.GC13005@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1296217518.1799.59.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:25:18PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:06 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:46:51AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 09:59 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 09:46:06AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > > My point is that we may want SWP_EMULATE disabled (or depending on !
> > > > > CPU_USE_DOMAINS). With domains enabled every read-only user page is
> > > > > writeable by the kernel. This has the side-effect that SWP emulation
> > > > > using LDREX/STREX breaks COW.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and maybe we should instead just enable the SWP instruction by default
> > > > on ARMv7, and if SWP emulation is built, disable it at that point.
> > >
> > > We can't disable the SWP instruction as long as domains are enabled (COW
> > > not working for in-kernel STREX).
> > >
> > > On ARMv7 we could always force R/O kernel/user pages in set_pte_ext
> > > independent of the domains setting and have early_trap_init() use
> > > vectors_page() if cpu_architecture() >= 7 (this would actually catch
> > > ARM11MPCore as well because of the way we interpret CPUID).
> > 
> > What about a kernel covering ARMv6 too?  Writing to an aliased mapping
> > of the vectors page (as required for TLS emulation) will require
> > additional cache maintainence on every context switch.
> 
> With your latest patches, do we use the TLS emulation on ARMv7 (UP) if
> v6 is compiled in? If that's the case, we may have a problem - I talked
> to the toolchain guys and it looks like code optimised for ARMv7 reads
> the TLS register directly without going through the kuser helper.

That's not a problem, because you wouldn't run ARMv7 optimized userspace
on an ARMv6 CPU.  That's not what this whole exercise is about.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-28 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 254+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 19:20 [PATCH 00/14] Fix issues with ARMv6+v6k+v7 kernels Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:21 ` [PATCH 01/14] ARM: bitops: ensure set/clear/change bitops take a word-aligned pointer Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:21   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18  6:00   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18  6:00     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18 14:30     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 14:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 18:20       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18 18:20         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18 15:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-18 15:11       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-25 19:50   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-25 19:50     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:21 ` [PATCH 02/14] ARM: bitops: switch set/clear/change bitops to use ldrex/strex Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:21   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18  5:42   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18  5:42     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-23  0:16   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-23  0:16     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-23  4:44     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-23  4:44       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-23  9:35       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-23  9:35         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24  8:38         ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24  8:38           ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24  8:57           ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24  8:57             ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24 10:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 10:28               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 13:47               ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24 13:47                 ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24 14:11                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 14:11                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 14:54                   ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24 14:54                     ` Poddar, Sourav
2011-01-24 15:00                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 15:00                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 13:57     ` Will Deacon
2011-01-25 13:57     ` Will Deacon
2011-01-25 14:11       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 14:11         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 14:19         ` Will Deacon
2011-01-25 14:19         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <000601cbbc97$cc6955d0$653c0170$%deacon@arm.com>
2011-01-25 21:38       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-25 21:38         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-25 19:51   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-25 19:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:22 ` [PATCH 03/14] ARM: v6k: remove CPU_32v6K dependencies in asm/spinlock.h Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:13   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:13     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-25 16:43   ` Dave Martin
2011-01-25 16:43     ` Dave Martin
2011-01-25 16:59     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 16:59       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 17:33       ` Dave Martin
2011-01-25 17:33         ` Dave Martin
2011-01-25 17:46         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 17:46           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 21:21           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-25 21:21             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-26 11:11             ` Dave Martin
2011-01-26 11:11               ` Dave Martin
2011-01-26 12:44               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-26 12:44                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-26 17:25                 ` [PATCH] ARM: Avoid discarding sections that might have SMP_ON_UP fixups Dave P. Martin
2011-01-26 17:25                   ` Dave P. Martin
2011-01-26 21:31                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-26 21:31                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-27 14:37                     ` [PATCH v2] ARM: Avoid discarding sections that might have SMP_ON_UP fixups " Dave Martin
2011-01-27 14:37                       ` Dave Martin
2011-01-27 16:46                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 16:46                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 14:22                   ` [PATCH] ARM: Avoid discarding sections that might have " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 14:22                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 12:56                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 12:56                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 14:11                       ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 14:11                         ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 14:13                         ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 14:13                           ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 14:46                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 14:46                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 18:29                             ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 18:29                               ` Dave Martin
2011-02-10 19:11                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 19:11                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11  9:33                                 ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11  9:33                                   ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11 10:13                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 10:13                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 10:52                                     ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11 10:52                                       ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11 16:05                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 16:05                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 16:17                                         ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11 16:17                                           ` Dave Martin
2011-02-11 16:32                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 16:32                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-16 16:35                                             ` Dave Martin
2011-02-16 16:35                                               ` Dave Martin
2011-02-18 17:52                                               ` Dave Martin
2011-02-18 17:52                                                 ` Dave Martin
2011-01-26 15:42               ` [PATCH 03/14] ARM: v6k: remove CPU_32v6K dependencies in asm/spinlock.h Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-26 15:42                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-26 15:52                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-26 15:52                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-26 16:59                   ` Dave Martin
2011-01-26 16:59                     ` Dave Martin
2011-01-26 21:06                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-26 21:06                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-27 11:44                       ` Dave P. Martin
2011-01-27 11:44                         ` Dave P. Martin
2011-01-17 19:22 ` [PATCH 04/14] ARM: v6k: introduce CPU_V6K option Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:14   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:14     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-18 10:36   ` Will Deacon
2011-01-18 10:36   ` Will Deacon
2011-01-18 11:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 11:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 13:35       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 13:35         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 15:22         ` Will Deacon
2011-01-18 15:22         ` Will Deacon
2011-01-17 19:22 ` [PATCH 05/14] ARM: v6k: Realview EB 11MPCore and PB11MPCore use V6K architecture CPUs Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:23 ` [PATCH 06/14] ARM: v6k: Dove platforms " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:39   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 23:39     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 19:23 ` [PATCH 07/14] ARM: v6k: select clear exclusive code seqences according to V6 variants Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:15   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:15     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:23 ` [PATCH 08/14] ARM: v6k: select cmpxchg code sequences " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:18   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:18     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] ARM: v6k: select generic atomic64 code " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-18 10:24   ` Will Deacon
2011-01-18 10:24   ` Will Deacon
2011-01-17 19:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] ARM: v6k: select TLS register " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 22:23   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 22:23     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 22:36     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 22:36       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 22:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 22:52         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18  4:27         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18  4:27           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18  4:25       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-18  4:25         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 23:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:21       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] ARM: v6k: use CPU domain feature if we include support for arch < ARMv6K Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 22:03   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 22:03     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-17 23:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:23       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-27 18:14   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-27 18:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-27 18:59     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 18:59       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  9:46       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28  9:46         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28  9:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  9:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 10:46           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 10:46             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 11:06             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 11:06               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 12:25               ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 12:25                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 13:05                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-01-28 13:05                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 13:10                   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 13:10                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 13:22                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 13:22                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 13:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 13:21                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28 15:11                   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 15:11                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-28 16:49                     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-28 16:49                       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:25 ` [PATCH 12/14] ARM: v6k: do not disable CPU_32v6K based on platform selection Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:24   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:24     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:25 ` [PATCH 13/14] ARM: v6k: allow swp emulation again when ARMv7 is enabled Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:24   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:24     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 19:25 ` [PATCH 14/14] ARM: v6k: only allow SMP if we have v6k or v7 CPU Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 19:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17 23:25   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 23:25     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 22:21 ` [PATCH 00/14] Fix issues with ARMv6+v6k+v7 kernels Tony Lindgren
2011-01-17 22:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-18 14:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-01-18 14:30   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-01-18 14:40   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 14:40     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 14:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-01-18 14:44       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-01-18 15:01       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-18 15:01         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-08 16:36 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-08 16:36   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-08 16:47   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-08 16:47     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-08 16:58     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-08 16:58       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-08 20:43       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-08 20:43         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-09  0:35         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09  0:35           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09  6:04           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09  6:04             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09  9:48             ` Dave Martin
2011-02-09  9:48               ` Dave Martin
2011-02-09 10:00               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09 10:00                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09 16:24                 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09 16:24                   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09 16:27                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09 16:27                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-09 16:32                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 16:32                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 16:44                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 16:44                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-09 16:45                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-09 16:45                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-09 17:48                       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09 17:48                         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-09 10:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-02-09 10:01       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-02-10 13:04       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 13:04         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 13:12         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-02-10 13:12           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-02-10 13:16           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-10 13:16             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 20:45           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-11 20:45             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-02-11 21:07             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-11 21:07               ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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