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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney"
	<paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, v3 2/2] cgroups: introduce timer slack subsystem
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:34:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110204133439.GA7181__23993.9254396178$1296826611$gmane$org@shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110203115743.1ef9a4c2@putvin>

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 11:57:43AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:12:51 -0800
> Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jacob Pan
> > <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think this logic defeats the purpose of having timer_slack
> > > subsystem in the first place. IMHO, the original intention was to
> > > have grouping effect of tasks in the cgroup.
> > 
> > You can get the semantics you want by just setting min_slack_ns =
> > max_slack_ns.
> > 
> true. it will just make set fail when min = max. it is awkward and
> counter intuitive when you want to change the group timer_slack. you
> will have to move both min and max to clamp the value, where set
> function can not be used.

Interface is very similar to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuX/cpufreq.
I think it's sane. If you want some extention, you can do it with
userspace helper.

> In addition, when a parent changes min = max, I don't see the current
> code enforce new settings on the children. Am i missing something?

I've missed it. I'll fix.

> In my use case, i want to put some apps into a managed group where
> relaxed slack value is used, but when time comes to move the app out of
> that cgroup, we would like to resore the original timer slack. I see
> having a current value per cgroup can be useful if we let timer code
> pick whether to use task slack value or the cgroup slack value.
> Or we have to cache the old value per task

What's mean "original timer slack" if you are free to move a task
between a lot of cgroups and process itself free to change it anytime?

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-04 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-02 20:47 [PATCH, v3 0/2] Timer slack cgroup subsystem Kirill A. Shutsemov
2011-02-02 20:47 ` [PATCH, v3 1/2] cgroups: export cgroup_iter_{start,next,end} Kirill A. Shutsemov
2011-02-02 21:21   ` Paul Menage
     [not found]   ` <1296679656-31163-2-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-02 21:21     ` Paul Menage
     [not found] ` <1296679656-31163-1-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-02 20:47   ` Kirill A. Shutsemov
2011-02-02 20:47   ` [PATCH, v3 2/2] cgroups: introduce timer slack subsystem Kirill A. Shutsemov
2011-02-02 20:47 ` Kirill A. Shutsemov
2011-02-02 22:56   ` jacob pan
2011-02-03  9:22     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-03  9:22     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-03 17:51       ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-03 18:12         ` Paul Menage
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTikvkUT8+U=bX6X2n7kMbnAt6evxTy1BqiX+TWpH-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-03 19:57             ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-03 19:57           ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-04 13:34             ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2011-02-04 13:34             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]               ` <20110204133439.GA7181-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-04 17:27                 ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-04 17:27               ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-07  0:33                 ` Matt Helsley
2011-02-07  0:33                 ` Matt Helsley
2011-02-07 11:06                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-07 17:20                   ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-07 18:32                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-07 18:32                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]                   ` <20110207110603.GB11712-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-07 17:20                     ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-07 11:06                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-03 18:12         ` Paul Menage
     [not found]       ` <20110203092229.GB1083-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-03 17:51         ` Jacob Pan
2011-02-02 23:23   ` Paul Menage
2011-02-03  5:48     ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTikAbmFmQNGgYMYhTOS8L5nU39edcTjQXNpdxGy2-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-03  5:48       ` Matt Helsley
2011-02-03  9:28       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-03  9:28     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]   ` <1296679656-31163-3-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-02 22:56     ` jacob pan
2011-02-02 23:23     ` Paul Menage
2011-02-03  5:46     ` Matt Helsley
2011-02-03  5:46   ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]     ` <20110203054616.GT16432-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-03  9:41       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-03  9:41     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-02-06  2:49       ` Matt Helsley
2011-02-07  9:48         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]         ` <20110206024951.GB16432-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-07  9:48           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]       ` <20110203094138.GD1083-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-06  2:49         ` Matt Helsley

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