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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/17] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:40:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110510024036.GC6758@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110509160538.GR4122@quack.suse.cz>

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:05:38AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 06-05-11 11:08:25, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > writeback_inodes_wb()/__writeback_inodes_sb() are not aggressive in that
> > they only populate possibly a subset of eligible inodes into b_io at
> > entrance time. When the queued set of inodes are all synced, they just
> > return, possibly with all queued inode pages written but still
> > wbc.nr_to_write > 0.
> > 
> > For kupdate and background writeback, there may be more eligible inodes
> > sitting in b_dirty when the current set of b_io inodes are completed. So
> > it is necessary to try another round of writeback as long as we made some
> > progress in this round. When there are no more eligible inodes, no more
> > inodes will be enqueued in queue_io(), hence nothing could/will be
> > synced and we may safely bail.
> > 
> > For example, imagine 100 inodes
> > 
> >         i0, i1, i2, ..., i90, i91, i99
> > 
> > At queue_io() time, i90-i99 happen to be expired and moved to s_io for
> > IO. When finished successfully, if their total size is less than
> > MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES, nr_to_write will be > 0. Then wb_writeback() will
> > quit the background work (w/o this patch) while it's still over
> > background threshold. This will be a fairly normal/frequent case I guess.
> > 
> > Jan raised the concern
> > 
> > 	I'm just afraid that in some pathological cases this could
> > 	result in bad writeback pattern - like if there is some process
> > 	which manages to dirty just a few pages while we are doing
> > 	writeout, this looping could result in writing just a few pages
> > 	in each round which is bad for fragmentation etc.
> > 
> > However it requires really strong timing to make that to (continuously)
> > happen.  In practice it's very hard to produce such a pattern even if
> > there is such a possibility in theory. I actually tried to write 1 page
> > per 1ms with this command
> > 
> > 	write-and-fsync -n10000 -S 1000 -c 4096 /fs/test
> > 
> > and do sync(1) at the same time. The sync completes quickly on ext4,
> > xfs, btrfs. The readers could try other write-and-sleep patterns and
> > check if it can block sync for longer time.
>   After some thought I realized that i_dirtied_when is going to be updated
> in these cases and so we stop writing back the inode soon. So I think we
> should be fine in the end. You can add:

Right, now that we do tagged sync and update i_dirtied_when, the test
case is guaranteed to not livelock.

But note that the test in the changelog was carried out before the
newly added sync livelock patches. 

So I simplified the last changelog paragraphs as follows.

---
Subject: writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written
Date: Thu Jul 22 10:23:44 CST 2010

writeback_inodes_wb()/__writeback_inodes_sb() are not aggressive in that
they only populate possibly a subset of eligible inodes into b_io at
entrance time. When the queued set of inodes are all synced, they just
return, possibly with all queued inode pages written but still
wbc.nr_to_write > 0.

For kupdate and background writeback, there may be more eligible inodes
sitting in b_dirty when the current set of b_io inodes are completed. So
it is necessary to try another round of writeback as long as we made some
progress in this round. When there are no more eligible inodes, no more
inodes will be enqueued in queue_io(), hence nothing could/will be
synced and we may safely bail.

For example, imagine 100 inodes

        i0, i1, i2, ..., i90, i91, i99

At queue_io() time, i90-i99 happen to be expired and moved to s_io for
IO. When finished successfully, if their total size is less than
MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES, nr_to_write will be > 0. Then wb_writeback() will
quit the background work (w/o this patch) while it's still over
background threshold. This will be a fairly normal/frequent case I guess.

Now that we do tagged sync and update inode->dirtied_when after the sync,
this change won't livelock sync(1).  I actually tried to write 1 page
per 1ms with this command

	write-and-fsync -n10000 -S 1000 -c 4096 /fs/test

and do sync(1) at the same time. The sync completes quickly on ext4,
xfs, btrfs.

Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
---
 fs/fs-writeback.c |   16 ++++++++--------
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

--- linux-next.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-05-05 23:30:24.000000000 +0800
+++ linux-next/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-05-05 23:30:25.000000000 +0800
@@ -739,23 +739,23 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
 		wrote += write_chunk - wbc.nr_to_write;
 
 		/*
-		 * If we consumed everything, see if we have more
+		 * Did we write something? Try for more
+		 *
+		 * Dirty inodes are moved to b_io for writeback in batches.
+		 * The completion of the current batch does not necessarily
+		 * mean the overall work is done. So we keep looping as long
+		 * as made some progress on cleaning pages or inodes.
 		 */
-		if (wbc.nr_to_write <= 0)
+		if (wbc.nr_to_write < write_chunk)
 			continue;
 		if (wbc.inodes_cleaned)
 			continue;
 		/*
-		 * Didn't write everything and we don't have more IO, bail
+		 * No more inodes for IO, bail
 		 */
 		if (!wbc.more_io)
 			break;
 		/*
-		 * Did we write something? Try for more
-		 */
-		if (wbc.nr_to_write < write_chunk)
-			continue;
-		/*
 		 * Nothing written. Wait for some inode to
 		 * become available for writeback. Otherwise
 		 * we'll just busyloop.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-10  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-06  3:08 [PATCH 00/17] writeback fixes and cleanups for 2.6.40 Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 01/17] writeback: introduce wbc.tagged_sync for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 16:08   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 02/17] writeback: update dirtied_when for synced inode to prevent livelock Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 16:33   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10  2:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-10 12:05       ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 03/17] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 14:36   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10  2:23     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-10 13:52       ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10 15:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 04/17] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-05-09 16:05   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10  2:40     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 05/17] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 06/17] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 19:02   ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-09 16:08   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-09 16:18     ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-10  2:45       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 07/17] writeback: refill b_io iff empty Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 08/17] writeback: split inode_wb_list_lock into bdi_writeback.list_lock Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 09/17] writeback: elevate queue_io() into wb_writeback() Wu Fengguang
2011-05-09 16:15   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 10/17] writeback: avoid extra sync work at enqueue time Wu Fengguang
2011-05-09 16:16   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 11/17] writeback: add bdi_dirty_limit() kernel-doc Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 12/17] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 13/17] writeback: remove writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 14/17] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight Wu Fengguang
2011-05-09 16:54   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10  3:19     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-10 13:44       ` Jan Kara
2011-05-11 14:38         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-11 14:54           ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 15/17] writeback: remove .nonblocking and .encountered_congestion Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 16/17] writeback: trace event writeback_single_inode Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  4:16   ` [PATCH 16/17] writeback: trace event writeback_single_inode (v2) Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 17/17] writeback: trace event writeback_queue_io Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06  4:06 ` [PATCH 00/17] writeback fixes and cleanups for 2.6.40 Anca Emanuel
2011-05-06  4:09   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 [PATCH 00/17] writeback fixes and cleanups for 2.6.40 (v2) Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/17] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang

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