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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] HWPoison: add memory_failure_queue()
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:11:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110525141115.GE19118@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDCB294.9000405@jp.fujitsu.com>


* Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> (2011/05/22 19:00), Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How to do hardware error recovering in your perf framework?  IMHO, it can be 
> >> something as follow:
> >>
> >> - NMI handler run for the hardware error, where hardware error
> >> information is collected and put into a ring buffer, an irq_work is
> >> triggered for further work
> >> - In irq_work handler, memory_failure_queue() is called to do the real
> >> recovering work for recoverable memory error in ring buffer.
> >>
> >> What's your idea about hardware error recovering in perf?
> > 
> > The first step, the whole irq_work and ring buffer already looks largely 
> > duplicated: you can collect into a perf event ring-buffer from NMI context like 
> > the regular perf events do.
> > 
> > The generalization that *would* make sense is not at the irq_work level really, 
> > instead we could generalize a 'struct event' for kernel internal producers and 
> > consumers of events that have no explicit PMU connection.
> > 
> > This new 'struct event' would be slimmer and would only contain the fields and 
> > features that generic event consumers and producers need. Tracing events could 
> > be updated to use these kinds of slimmer events.
> > 
> > It would still plug nicely into existing event ABIs, would work with event 
> > filters, etc. so the tooling side would remain focused and unified.
> > 
> > Something like that. It is rather clear by now that splitting out irq_work was 
> > a mistake. But mistakes can be fixed and some really nice code could come out 
> > of it! Would you be interested in looking into this?
> 
> Err...?
> 
> Then is it better to write some nice code and throw away the following patch?

No, i think your patch is already a pretty nice simplification of the 
MCE code - using irq_work is obviously better than the open-coded MCE 
vector approach!

These are exactly the kind of small steps towards generalizations 
that i wanted to see: each step without being intrusive and breaking 
stuff and working towards improving the status quo.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-25 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17  8:08 [PATCH 0/9] ACPI, APEI patches for 2.6.40 Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 1/9] Add Kconfig option ARCH_HAVE_NMI_SAFE_CMPXCHG Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 2/9] lib, Add lock-less NULL terminated single list Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 3/9] lib, Make gen_pool memory allocator lockless Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 4/9] ACPI, APEI, GHES, printk support for recoverable error via NMI Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 5/9] HWPoison: add memory_failure_queue() Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17  8:52     ` Huang Ying
2011-05-17  9:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-18  1:10         ` Huang Ying
2011-05-20 11:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-22  8:14             ` huang ying
2011-05-22 10:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-22 12:32                 ` huang ying
2011-05-22 12:32                   ` huang ying
2011-05-22 13:25                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-22 13:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23  2:38                     ` Huang Ying
2011-05-23 11:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 16:45                         ` Luck, Tony
2011-05-25 14:08                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  2:10                         ` Huang Ying
2011-05-24  2:48                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  3:07                             ` Huang Ying
2011-05-24  4:24                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  7:41                 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-25 14:11                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-26  1:33                     ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 6/9] ACPI, APEI, GHES: Add hardware memory error recovery support Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 7/9] PCIe, AER, add aer_recover_queue Huang Ying
2011-06-01 18:49   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-06-02  5:09     ` Huang Ying
2011-06-02 15:05   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 8/9] ACPI, APEI, GHES: Add PCIe AER recovery support Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:08 ` [PATCH 9/9] ACPI, APEI, ERST, Prevent erst_dbg from loading if ERST is disabled Huang Ying
2011-05-29  6:55 ` [PATCH 0/9] ACPI, APEI patches for 2.6.40 Len Brown
2011-05-29 11:31   ` huang ying
2011-05-29 11:31     ` huang ying
2011-05-30  6:48   ` Chen Gong

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