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From: NeilBrown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ben Blum <bblum-OM76b2Iv3yLQjUSlxSEPGw@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney"
	<paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Possible race between cgroup_attach_proc and de_thread, and questionable code in de_thread.
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:58:20 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110815095820.33607862__9270.48328235305$1313366374$gmane$org@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110814175119.GC2381-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:51:19 +0200 Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On 07/28, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:08:13AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > >
> > > I disagree.  It also requires - by virtue of the use of while_each_thread() -
> > > that 'g' remains on the list that 't' is walking along.
> >
> > Doesn't the following code in the loop body deal with this possibilty?
> >
> > 	/* Exit if t or g was unhashed during refresh. */
> > 	if (t->state == TASK_DEAD || g->state == TASK_DEAD)
> > 		goto unlock;
> 
> This code is completely wrong even if while_each_thread() was fine.
> 
> I sent the patch but it was ignored.
> 
> 	[PATCH] fix the racy check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks()->rcu_lock_break()
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=127688790019041
> 
> Oleg.


I agree with that patch.
RCU only protects a task_struct until release_task() is called (which
removes it from the task list).

So holding rcu_lock doesn't stop put_task_struct from freeing the memory
unless we *know* that release_task hasn't been called.  This is exactly that
pid_alive() tests.


I must say that handling of task_struct seems to violate the law of least
surprise a little to often for my taste.  Maybe it is just a difficult
problem and it needs a complex solution - but it would be really nice if it
were a bit simpler :-(

NeilBrown

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-14 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-27  7:11 Possible race between cgroup_attach_proc and de_thread, and questionable code in de_thread NeilBrown
2011-08-14 17:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-15  0:11   ` NeilBrown
     [not found]     ` <20110815101144.39812e9f-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 19:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-15 19:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]   ` <20110814174000.GA2381-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15  0:11     ` NeilBrown
     [not found] ` <20110727171101.5e32d8eb-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 15:07   ` Ben Blum
2011-07-27 15:07     ` Ben Blum
2011-07-27 23:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]       ` <20110727234235.GA2318-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28  1:08         ` NeilBrown
2011-07-28  1:08       ` NeilBrown
2011-07-28  6:26         ` Ben Blum
2011-07-28  7:13           ` NeilBrown
     [not found]             ` <20110728171345.67d3797d-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-29 14:28               ` [PATCH][BUGFIX] cgroups: more safe tasklist locking in cgroup_attach_proc Ben Blum
2011-07-29 14:28             ` Ben Blum
2011-08-01 19:31               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]               ` <20110729142842.GA8462-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-01 19:31                 ` Paul Menage
2011-08-15 18:49                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-15 18:49               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-15 22:50                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-15 23:04                   ` Ben Blum
2011-08-15 23:09                     ` Ben Blum
2011-08-15 23:19                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]                       ` <20110815230900.GB6867-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 23:19                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]                     ` <20110815230415.GA6867-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 23:09                       ` Ben Blum
2011-08-15 23:04                   ` Ben Blum
2011-08-15 23:11                   ` [PATCH][BUGFIX] cgroups: fix ordering of calls " Ben Blum
2011-08-15 23:20                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]                     ` <20110815231156.GC6867-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 23:20                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-08-15 23:31                       ` Paul Menage
2011-08-15 23:31                     ` Paul Menage
2011-08-15 23:11                   ` Ben Blum
     [not found]                 ` <20110815184957.GA16588-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 22:50                   ` [PATCH][BUGFIX] cgroups: more safe tasklist locking " Frederic Weisbecker
2011-09-01 21:46                   ` Ben Blum
2011-09-01 21:46                 ` Ben Blum
     [not found]                   ` <20110901214643.GD10401-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-02 12:32                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-02 12:32                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20110902123251.GA26764-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-08  2:11                       ` Ben Blum
2011-09-08  2:11                     ` Ben Blum
2011-10-14  0:31                 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroups: use sighand lock instead of tasklist_lock " Ben Blum
2011-10-14 12:15                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-14  0:36                 ` [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: convert ss->attach to use whole threadgroup flex_array (cpuset, memcontrol) Ben Blum
2011-10-14 12:21                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-14 13:53                     ` Ben Blum
2011-10-14 13:54                       ` Ben Blum
2011-10-14 15:22                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-17 19:11                           ` Ben Blum
2011-10-14 15:21                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-19  5:43                   ` Paul Menage
     [not found]           ` <20110728062616.GC15204-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28  7:13             ` Possible race between cgroup_attach_proc and de_thread, and questionable code in de_thread NeilBrown
2011-07-28 12:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]           ` <20110728121741.GB2427-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-14 17:51             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-14 17:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20110814175119.GC2381-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-14 23:58               ` NeilBrown [this message]
2011-08-15 18:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-14 23:58             ` NeilBrown
2011-08-15 18:01             ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]         ` <20110728110813.7ff84b13-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-28  6:26           ` Ben Blum
2011-07-28 12:17           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-14 17:45           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-08-14 17:45         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20110727150710.GB5242-japSPQJXeIlCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-27 23:42       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-14 17:40   ` Oleg Nesterov

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