From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-fx0-f47.google.com ([209.85.161.47]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QwFFk-0007Nm-LN for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:20:28 +0200 Received: by fxg11 with SMTP id 11so1113450fxg.6 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=paMsr4rKBvOKbfk+wWmiKZ+NIm3WozC6ChzsOEjITII=; b=hpC3EFL9529OOQ5MA6zVhJwgfHGfCPL9Uc1xuMcoaQtWnsMyY+iCMXNPWyuT67VpmH QY9JKgA86NCxvBPul0CZtQUDAkEC24HTATgFFm7nZAq+P4v5677usgi/ssPKlMapUo0y XCYeV9xPf7MQKPw+bMHYeeI2x4ZNpFz9VMvTg= Received: by 10.223.58.139 with SMTP id g11mr7426906fah.14.1314198870366; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([94.230.152.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g16sm913066faa.3.2011.08.24.08.14.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:14:22 +0200 From: Martin Jansa To: Steffen Sledz Message-ID: <20110824151422.GE5522@jama.jama.net> References: <4E54DA89.2080105@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54EF12.2010100@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54F03E.3040806@juszkiewicz.com.pl> <4E550BDE.6010401@dresearch-fe.de> <20110824144529.GD5522@jama.jama.net> <4E55115B.6070102@dresearch-fe.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E55115B.6070102@dresearch-fe.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: upstart vs. task-proper-tools X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:20:29 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 33812 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EXKGNeO8l0xGFBjy" Content-Disposition: inline --EXKGNeO8l0xGFBjy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:57:31PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote: > On 24.08.2011 16:45, Martin Jansa wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote: > >> On 24.08.2011 14:36, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > >>> W dniu 24.08.2011 14:31, Steffen Sledz pisze: > >>>> BTW: What is the exact meaning/purpose/use of task-proper-tools? > >>>=20 > >>> Replace busybox components by full versions. Was made years ago and t= hen updated by several people. While working for BugLabs company I used it = to create rootfs without busybox. > >>>=20 > >>>> The list contains a lot of tools with existing alternatives (e.g. sy= slog-ng vs. rsyslog or pump vs. dhcpcd). > >>>=20 > >>> Then propose change which will allow to install one of them only at t= ime? > >>=20 > >> Sorry, but my knowledge is not sufficient to do this. I've no idea how= to reference u-a related tools here. > >=20 > > Why you don't remove task-proper-tools from your images RDEPENDS and ad= d only tools you need which aren't provided by upstart? >=20 > task-proper-tools is not directly in our image RDEPENDS but inherited via= task-sdk-native (may be via others too). then maybe it's time to propose removing it from task-sdk-native or add switch controlling if it should be included or not. > > or use something like DISTRO_SYSLOG ?=3D "syslog-ng" in task-proper-too= ls > >=20 > > and set DISTRO_SYSLOG =3D upstart for your distro if distro level granu= larity is fine for you (all supported images are using upstart). >=20 > We do not have an own distro (we use angstrom). It's only a custom image. >=20 > And the initial problem is sysvinit vs. upstart which are not u-a but nee= d to be installed exclusively. If i'm right this is done by setting IMAGE_I= NIT_MANAGER. Can this variable used inside the task-proper-tools RDEPENDS? No because you have one global task-proper-tools for different images (with possible different IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER values). Regards, --=20 Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com --EXKGNeO8l0xGFBjy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk5VFU4ACgkQN1Ujt2V2gBwe3QCffiVUahuBkvJMdPlOxIHMd2i3 sLwAn02wzGDg9fxSdefT8ZrnbxB7MNmp =ZGPb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EXKGNeO8l0xGFBjy--