From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Gibson Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:29:48 +1000 Message-ID: <20110830012948.GD4254@yookeroo.fritz.box> References: <20110826193559.GD13060@sequoia.sous-sol.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , Paul Mackerras , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel , Chris Wright , iommu , Avi Kivity , "Roedel, Joerg" , linuxppc-dev , "benve@cisco.com" To: Aaron Fabbri Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org eOn Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 01:17:05PM -0700, Aaron Fabbri wrote: [snip] > Yes. In essence, I'd rather not have to run any other admin processes. > Doing things programmatically, on the fly, from each process, is the > cleanest model right now. The "persistent group" model doesn't necessarily prevent that. There's no reason your program can't use the administrative interface as well as the "use" interface, and I don't see that making the admin interface separate and persistent makes this any harder. -- David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_ | _way_ _around_! http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e23smtp06.au.ibm.com (e23smtp06.au.ibm.com [202.81.31.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "e23smtp06.au.ibm.com", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25BC1B6F7B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from d23relay04.au.ibm.com (d23relay04.au.ibm.com [202.81.31.246]) by e23smtp06.au.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7U1XkGx017506 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:33:46 +1000 Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (d23av03.au.ibm.com [9.190.234.97]) by d23relay04.au.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p7U1XKc11450072 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:33:20 +1000 Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d23av03.au.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p7U1Yhov029778 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:44 +1000 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:29:48 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Aaron Fabbri Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Message-ID: <20110830012948.GD4254@yookeroo.fritz.box> References: <20110826193559.GD13060@sequoia.sous-sol.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , Paul Mackerras , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel , Chris Wright , iommu , Avi Kivity , Anthony Liguori , "Roedel, Joerg" , linuxppc-dev , "benve@cisco.com" List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , eOn Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 01:17:05PM -0700, Aaron Fabbri wrote: [snip] > Yes. In essence, I'd rather not have to run any other admin processes. > Doing things programmatically, on the fly, from each process, is the > cleanest model right now. The "persistent group" model doesn't necessarily prevent that. There's no reason your program can't use the administrative interface as well as the "use" interface, and I don't see that making the admin interface separate and persistent makes this any harder. -- David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_ | _way_ _around_! http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyDEA-0004u2-Hp for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:34:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyDE9-0006dd-4Q for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:34:58 -0400 Received: from e23smtp07.au.ibm.com ([202.81.31.140]:60286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyDE8-0006dR-Hm for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:34:57 -0400 Received: from d23relay03.au.ibm.com (d23relay03.au.ibm.com [202.81.31.245]) by e23smtp07.au.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7U1Yl6H006634 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:47 +1000 Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (d23av03.au.ibm.com [9.190.234.97]) by d23relay03.au.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p7U1Yi7l1388716 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:47 +1000 Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d23av03.au.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p7U1Yhox029778 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:44 +1000 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:29:48 +1000 From: David Gibson Message-ID: <20110830012948.GD4254@yookeroo.fritz.box> References: <20110826193559.GD13060@sequoia.sous-sol.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Aaron Fabbri Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , Paul Mackerras , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel , Chris Wright , iommu , Avi Kivity , "Roedel, Joerg" , linuxppc-dev , "benve@cisco.com" eOn Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 01:17:05PM -0700, Aaron Fabbri wrote: [snip] > Yes. In essence, I'd rather not have to run any other admin processes. > Doing things programmatically, on the fly, from each process, is the > cleanest model right now. The "persistent group" model doesn't necessarily prevent that. There's no reason your program can't use the administrative interface as well as the "use" interface, and I don't see that making the admin interface separate and persistent makes this any harder. -- David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_ | _way_ _around_! http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson