From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752868Ab2BZJym (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:54:42 -0500 Received: from smtprelay-b21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.212]:33959 "EHLO smtprelay-b21.telenor.se" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751206Ab2BZJyl (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:54:41 -0500 X-SENDER-IP: [85.230.168.211] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoVeADAASk9V5qjTPGdsb2JhbABDDoUZhEWpLhkBAQEBNzSBcwEBBAEjDwEjIwULCAMODAImAgIUJQoaiBQJpVWRAxOBHItvAQcBBgQRCQIKAQYEBwIGBwwUBgMChEMIATwKCRIKglszYwSVPIVtjEs4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,485,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="1814441300" From: "Henrik Rydberg" Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:54:47 +0100 To: Theodore Tso Cc: Greg KH , Guenter Roeck , Jidong Xiao , Kernel development list Subject: Re: Can we move device drivers into user-space? Message-ID: <20120226095447.GA18141@polaris.bitmath.org> References: <20120224191535.GA4505@polaris.bitmath.org> <20120224192643.GB24120@kroah.com> <20120224201027.GA4859@polaris.bitmath.org> <20120224201655.GA5994@kroah.com> <20120224203715.GA4995@polaris.bitmath.org> <20120224205651.GA13333@kroah.com> <20120224212238.GA5178@polaris.bitmath.org> <20120224213027.GB15735@thunk.org> <20120224221459.GA5254@polaris.bitmath.org> <717014CA-C53C-4001-BD60-B742468DA0BD@MIT.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <717014CA-C53C-4001-BD60-B742468DA0BD@MIT.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > … and the performance is terrible --- as it must be. If you don't > understand why this must be, then we're wasting our time having this > conversation. You are right, I don't understand the assumptions leading to that conclusion. It does not seem to stop people from experimenting with filesystems that do no even reside within the same computer (hdfs). > And if you're the one wanting to make a change, then you are the one > who has to provide the proof. I know the drill, and I obviously already got hit on the head. ;-) > Otherwise we're just talking about > hypotheticals, and that way lies over-design. Why waste time > engineering something that may never come to pass? This is a seriously defensive attitude, given that the thread was hypothetical from the start. > Of course, your time is something you are free to spend however you > like. So if you want to try implementing some of these grand plans > of yours, show us the code…. If I put on rose-colored glasses and try really hard, I can almost interpret this as an invitation to share code. Thanks. Henrik