From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753215Ab2BZWt2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:49:28 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]:62090 "EHLO mail-pw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753050Ab2BZWt1 (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:49:27 -0500 Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gregkh@linuxfoundation.org designates 10.68.72.70 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:46:37 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Jidong Xiao Cc: Kernel development list Subject: Re: Can we move device drivers into user-space? Message-ID: <20120226224637.GB16895@kroah.com> References: <20120224153811.GA16535@kroah.com> <20120224165448.GA8751@kroah.com> <20120225205540.GA29303@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120225205540.GA29303@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:55:40PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 02:23:07PM -0500, Jidong Xiao wrote: > > Hi, Greg, > > > > These two studies support my point. If the first one is too old, then > > the second one should be more convincing. To save your time, you can > > take a look at their conclusion first. > > > > An Empirical Study of Operating Systems Errors > > http://www.stanford.edu/~engler/metrics-sosp-01.pdf > > > > Faults in Linux: Ten Years Later > > http://pagesperso-systeme.lip6.fr/Suman.Saha/src/asplos11.pdf > > This second paper proves my point, it's funny that you tried to use it > to prove yours, you obviously must not have read the conclusion... > > Anyway, any paper that goes "look at all of these problems in the code!" > and isn't instantly followed by patches fixing ALL of those problems by > the authors of the paper, should be ignored as a troll masquerading as a > "study". Oops, it was pointed out to me that one of the authors of that paper really is contributing patches, my appologies to them. Julia has probably fixed more bugs than almost anyone else in the kernel community. I did not mean to make light of her contributions at all, again my mistake. greg k-h