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From: Phil Carmody <ext-phil.2.carmody@nokia.com>
To: ext Peter Seebach <peter.seebach@windriver.com>
Cc: "ext H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	apw@canonical.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] checkpatch.pl: thou shalt not use () or (...) in function declarations
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:01:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120322200144.GF19970@pcarmody2.research.nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120322141005.1abe7b1e@wrlaptop>

On 22/03/12 14:10 -0500, ext Peter Seebach wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:48:02 +0200
> Phil Carmody <ext-phil.2.carmody@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> > While empty paramter lists in function definitions are not technically
> > wrong, those situations are rare enough that it's worth encouraging
> > people towards a more uniform, always unambiguous, style.
> 
> Typo here ("paramter").
> 
> You don't need to check for (...).  That doesn't actually exist, and
> gcc rejects it (as it should).  The description of () as meaning (...)
> is a (slight) oversimplification.

Thanks, and thanks, yup. I just got carried away by HPA's wonderful tale, 
I took it too literally.

>  As to the () case:
> 
> The rules here are complicated.  Complicated enough that I don't even
> TRY to remember them.  Fundamentally, f() is equivalent to either
> f(void) or f(please do unpleasant things to me with railroad spikes).
> I would definitely endorse a policy discouraging its use.

It appears we have quite broad agreement, it's just the details that
need to be polished.

> I can only think of one exception, and it's inapplicable.  The
> exception:  Imagine that you wish to write a wrapper for a function
> like scandir, which takes a function pointer as an argument, and you
> wish the wrapper to work on two systems where the arguments passed to
> the function pointer are of different types, but you yourself will
> never actually see or care about the arguments; you just want to pass
> the function pointer around.  Then it could make sense to declare the
> argument as int (*compar)().  But that's a once-a-lifetime use case,
> give or take.

Maybe WG14 should introduce (...) for just that case! :-D

Cheers for your input Seebs,
Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-22 15:27 [PATCH 1/1] checkpatch.pl: thou shalt not use () or (...) in function declarations Phil Carmody
2012-03-22 15:49 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-03-22 16:33   ` Joe Perches
2012-03-22 16:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-22 16:49   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-03-22 16:55     ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-22 17:00       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-22 17:17       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-03-22 19:00         ` Joe Perches
2012-03-22 16:53   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-22 16:56     ` Jiri Slaby
2012-03-22 17:48     ` Phil Carmody
2012-03-22 19:10       ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-22 20:01         ` Phil Carmody [this message]
2012-03-22 17:17   ` Nick Bowler
2012-03-22 17:19     ` Nick Bowler
2012-03-26 10:03     ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-16  6:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-22 17:32   ` Phil Carmody
2012-04-15 18:18   ` Phil Carmody

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