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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
	ctalbott-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	rni-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	andrea-oIIqvOZpAevzfdHfmsDf5w@public.gmane.org,
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	sjayaraman-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org,
	lsf-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
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	jmoyer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Fengguang Wu
	<fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] writeback and cgroup
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:31:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120405163113.GD12854__1202.47658710486$1333643490$gmane$org@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120404201816.GL12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hey, Vivek.

On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:18:16PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> Hey how about reconsidering my other proposal for which I had posted
> the patches. And that is keep throttling still at device level. Reads
> and direct IO get throttled asynchronously but buffered writes get
> throttled synchronously.
> 
> Advantages of this scheme.
> 
> - There are no separate knobs.
> 
> - All the IO (read, direct IO and buffered write) is controlled using
>   same set of knobs and goes in queue of same cgroup.
> 
> - Writeback logic has no knowledge of throttling. It just invokes a 
>   hook into throttling logic of device queue.
> 
> I guess this is a hybrid of active writeback throttling and back pressure
> mechanism.
> 
> But it still does not solve the NFS issue as well as for direct IO,
> filesystems still can get serialized, so metadata issue still needs to 
> be resolved. So one can argue that why not go for full "back pressure"
> method, despite it being more complex.
> 
> Here is the link, just to refresh the memory. Something to keep in mind
> while assessing alternatives.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/28/243

Hmmm... so, this only works for blk-throttle and not with the weight.
How do you manage interaction between buffered writes and direct
writes for the same cgroup?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-05 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 262+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-03 18:36 [RFC] writeback and cgroup Tejun Heo
2012-04-03 18:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-03 18:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 14:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 14:51   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 15:36   ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 18:56     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:56       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:19       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 19:19         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-25  8:47         ` Suresh Jayaraman
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
     [not found]         ` <20120404191918.GK12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
     [not found]       ` <20120404185605.GC29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 19:19         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <CAH2r5mtwQa0Uu=_Yd2JywVJXA=OMGV43X_OUfziC-yeVy9BGtQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 18:56       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:23     ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-04 19:23       ` Steve French
     [not found]       ` <CAH2r5mvP56D0y4mk5wKrJcj+=OZ0e0Q5No_L+9a8a=GMcEhRew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20120404184909.GB29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 19:23       ` Steve French
2012-04-04 20:32       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-14 11:53       ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-04 20:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:32       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120404203239.GM12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 23:02       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120405163854.GE12854-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 17:13         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:13           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:13           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-14 11:53     ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 11:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 11:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16  1:25       ` Steve French
     [not found]   ` <20120404145134.GC12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-07  8:00     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-07  8:00   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-07  8:00     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20120407080027.GA2584-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 16:23       ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-10 18:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 16:23     ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-10 16:23       ` Steve French
2012-04-10 16:23       ` Steve French
     [not found]       ` <CAH2r5mvLVnM3Se5vBBsYzwaz5Ckp3i6SVnGp2T0XaGe9_u8YYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 18:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:16       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:06       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120410180653.GJ21801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 21:05         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 21:05           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 21:05           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]           ` <20120410210505.GE4936-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 21:20             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 21:20           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 21:20             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120410212041.GP21801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 22:24               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 22:24             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 22:24               ` Jan Kara
     [not found]               ` <20120410222425.GF4936-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 15:40                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:40                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:40                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:45                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20120411154531.GE16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 17:05                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:05                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:05                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:23                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 17:23                         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20120411172311.GF16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 19:44                           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:44                             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:44                             ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                       ` <20120411170542.GB16008-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 17:23                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-18 18:18                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-18 18:18                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20120417214831.GE19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 18:18                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                   ` <20120411154005.GD16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 15:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 19:22                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-11 19:22                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:22                     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                     ` <20120411192231.GF16008-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 20:37                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:37                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:37                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:51                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-12 20:51                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                           ` <20120412205148.GA24056-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-14 14:36                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-14 14:36                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:57                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 14:57                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-24 11:33                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24 11:33                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24 14:56                                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 15:58                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-24 15:58                                       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                       ` <20120424155843.GG26708-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                                     ` <20120424145655.GA1474-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 15:58                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-25  3:16                                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  3:16                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  9:01                                         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25  9:01                                           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25  9:01                                           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                           ` <20120425090156.GB12568-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25 12:05                                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25 12:05                                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  9:01                                         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                 ` <20120416145744.GA15437-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 11:33                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:57                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-15 11:37                         ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                         ` <20120412203719.GL2207-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 20:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-18  6:30                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  6:30                         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                       ` <20120417220106.GF19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  6:30                         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-14 12:25                   ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 12:54                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 12:54                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 12:54                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 13:07                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 13:07                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 15:52                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                           ` <20120416155207.GB15437-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17  2:14                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17  2:14                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17  2:14                               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                       ` <20120416125432.GB12776-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-16 13:07                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20120403183655.GA23106-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 14:51   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 17:51   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 17:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 17:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 18:35     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 18:35       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120404183528.GJ12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 21:42         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 21:42           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 21:42           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-05 15:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 15:10             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120405151026.GB23999-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-06  0:32               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  0:32             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  0:32               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-05 15:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 18:35     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 19:33     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-06  9:59       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17 22:38         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-19 14:23           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 18:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 18:31               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20120419183118.GM10216-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 12:45                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 12:45               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 12:45                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 19:29                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-20 19:29                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-20 21:33                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 21:33                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-22 14:26                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:26                       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                     ` <20120420213301.GA29134-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 14:26                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 12:30                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 12:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 16:04                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:04                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20120423123011.GA8103-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 16:04                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20120420192930.GR22419-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 21:33                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:29                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 18:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 20:26             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-19 20:26               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-19 20:26               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-20 13:34               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 13:34                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 19:08                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:08                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:08                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20120420190844.GH32324-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 16:56                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:56                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:56                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20120423165626.GB5406-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  7:58                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24  7:58                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24  7:58                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25 15:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-25 15:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-25 15:47                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23  9:14                 ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23  9:14                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23  9:14                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 10:24                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 10:24                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:42                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 12:42                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 14:31                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 14:31                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                       ` <20120423124240.GE6512-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 14:31                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:42                     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                   ` <20120423091432.GC6512-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 10:24                     ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]               ` <20120419202635.GA4795-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 13:34                 ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]           ` <20120417223854.GG19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  6:57         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  6:57           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  7:58           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]           ` <20120418065720.GA21485-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  6:57         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]       ` <20120404193355.GD29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 20:18         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:18           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:18           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 16:31           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:31             ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 17:09             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:09               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120405163113.GD12854-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 17:09               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20120404201816.GL12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 16:31             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-03 18:36 Tejun Heo

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