From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170]:36610 "EHLO mail-wi0-f170.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750892Ab2DPFc0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:32:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:32:20 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Sergio Correia , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-wireless Mailing List , Sujith Manoharan , "ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" , "John W. Linville" Subject: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review Message-ID: <20120416053220.GA14338@gmail.com> (sfid-20120416_073242_039091_FFD52CDB) References: <20120414104733.GA4871@gmail.com> <20120415065124.GC29563@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: * Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Linus Torvalds > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Felipe Contreras > > wrote: > >> > >> This is not a reason, this is just stating what happens without > >> explaining *why*. > >> > >> Q: What changes when a tag is made? > >> A: A tag is made > > [...] > > > The only thing that matters is "it's been made available to others". > > Exactly! Now *this* is a reason. [...] Erm, many people referred to that in this discussion explicitly and implicitly - beyond its well-known technical meaning it's also the English meaning of the word 'release': http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasing : [...] to make available to the public [...] So stop pretending that this is somehow the mistake of *others* explaining it to you wrong ... Just admit it already that you were trivially and dead wrong all along, and that you were pretty difficult and obnoxious about handling a discussion that went against you. Being wrong is normal and it happens all the time - and a big part of the picture is how you handle such situations, to not try to wriggle out of the responsibility of being wrong and to not waste other people's time with such self-gratifying mental obfuscation. Such as: > I'm not going to argue the semantics of what is a revert, > [...] You should not argue about the semantics about a revert not because somehow it's not important (it is), but because you've been wrong about this issue too. You should learn and improve. Thanks, Ingo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ingo Molnar Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:32:20 +0200 Subject: [ath9k-devel] [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review In-Reply-To: References: <20120414104733.GA4871@gmail.com> <20120415065124.GC29563@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120416053220.GA14338@gmail.com> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org * Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Linus Torvalds > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Felipe Contreras > > wrote: > >> > >> This is not a reason, this is just stating what happens without > >> explaining *why*. > >> > >> Q: What changes when a tag is made? > >> A: A tag is made > > [...] > > > The only thing that matters is "it's been made available to others". > > Exactly! Now *this* is a reason. [...] Erm, many people referred to that in this discussion explicitly and implicitly - beyond its well-known technical meaning it's also the English meaning of the word 'release': http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasing : [...] to make available to the public [...] So stop pretending that this is somehow the mistake of *others* explaining it to you wrong ... Just admit it already that you were trivially and dead wrong all along, and that you were pretty difficult and obnoxious about handling a discussion that went against you. Being wrong is normal and it happens all the time - and a big part of the picture is how you handle such situations, to not try to wriggle out of the responsibility of being wrong and to not waste other people's time with such self-gratifying mental obfuscation. Such as: > I'm not going to argue the semantics of what is a revert, > [...] You should not argue about the semantics about a revert not because somehow it's not important (it is), but because you've been wrong about this issue too. You should learn and improve. Thanks, Ingo