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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>, Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	lenb@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] usb/acpi: Add support usb port power off mechanism for device fixed on the motherboard
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:17:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120512001722.GA28011@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120511235922.GJ18754@xanatos>

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:59:22PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> > > Only the xHCI host controller will have the port power off mechanism.
> > 
> > You're only talking about the upcoming Intel implementation, right?
> 
> Yes.  The port power off mechanism is an Intel specific ACPI call.
> AFAIK, there isn't anyone else who is going to have this mechanism.

That's not fair, you don't know what other vendors are going to do in
their controllers, or their system firmware, to be able to accurately say
this.

> > > > And what about ports on the USB-2 "rate-matching" hubs that Intel now
> > > > builds into its chipsets?
> > > 
> > > For the Intel platform that has the port power off mechanism, there are
> > > EHCI host controllers, but the port switch over changes *all* the USB
> > > ports under xHCI.
> > 
> > Leaving aside the matter of people who don't use the port switch-over, 
> > what about other platforms?
> 
> I'm not sure about other future Intel chipsets, like server chipsets.
> As I said, I don't think the port power off mechanism will save servers
> a large percentage of their power budget.  I don't think there's any
> plans to add the port power off mechanism to EHCI.

Power savings mean more in real dollars to server systems than to mobile
systems.  So don't be supprised to see this show up on some server
systems, especially with the wide range of "custom" motherboards that
people are creating for large "cloud" data centers.

Never say never :)

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-12  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  8:33 [RFC PATCH] usb/acpi: Add support usb port power off mechanism for device fixed on the motherboard Lan Tianyu
2012-05-10 15:54 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205101136470.1831-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 16:35     ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-10 17:44       ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 16:12         ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 16:16           ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 17:44           ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 18:12             ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-12 12:47               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2012-05-12 14:04                 ` Greg KH
2012-05-12 18:00               ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-11 18:18             ` Lan Tianyu
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205111302080.1865-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-11 18:35               ` Greg KH
2012-05-11 19:32                 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:11                 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 21:09                   ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-15  1:47                     ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-15  4:57                       ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 19:54               ` Lan, Tianyu
2012-05-11 20:15                 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 20:26                   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:20                 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-12 17:47                   ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-12 18:04                     ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-13  2:50                     ` Alan Stern
2012-05-10 19:19     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]       ` <1336677578.6463.5.camel-wKZy7rqYPVb5EHUCmHmTqw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 21:11         ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11  4:13           ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 14:20             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1205111019000.1865-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-11 14:30                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-05-11 14:08           ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 18:03             ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 19:14               ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 20:21                 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-11 20:36                   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-11 23:59                     ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-12  0:17                       ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-05-12 13:54                         ` Alan Stern
2012-05-14 23:21                         ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-15 14:31                           ` Lan Tianyu
     [not found]                             ` <4FB268CA.9060304-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 15:18                               ` Greg KH
2012-05-15 20:00                                 ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-16  6:26                                   ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-16 14:36                                     ` Alan Stern
2012-05-16 14:39                                       ` Greg KH
2012-05-16 14:54                                         ` Lan Tianyu
2012-05-16 15:08                                           ` Greg KH
2012-05-16 15:32                                             ` Lan Tianyu
     [not found]                                             ` <20120516150846.GB3293-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-16 15:57                                               ` Sarah Sharp
2012-05-16 15:12                                           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                         ` <20120516143958.GA612-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-17 11:42                                           ` Sergei Shtylyov

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