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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@ozlabs.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:53:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120711105335.GD22437@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877guarhpi.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

Hi Rusty,

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 06:26:49AM +0100, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:52:18 +0000, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2012, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > > In the AArch32 kernel port many implementation decisions newer
> > > > architectures were made in a way that preserves backwards compatibility
> > > > to over 15 years ago (and for good reasons, ARMv4 hardware is still in
> > > > use). But keeping the same decisions in AArch64 is wrong.
> > > 
> > > Same argument as x86-32 v x86-64. Same issues about compatibility.
> > 
> > Similar but not the same. In case of x86-64 the hardware was actually
> > meant to run old 32 bit kernel binaries and still can. I don't
> 
> I know it's a crazy idea, but why don't we try some actual analysis?

This kind of analysis is not relevant. It's not like you can use a tool
to just mix the lines from one file with another and get a merged port.
It's useful if you want to prove plagiarism but I already admitted
openly that AArch64 is derived from the ARM port :).

Just to give an example on this hashmatch tool (with the 3.5-rc5
kernel):

$ ./blockhash -p '*.[chS]' arch/arm/ > arm.hash

$ find arch/unicore32/ -name '*.[chS]' -exec cat {} \; | wc -l
16384
$ /work/cmarinas/hashmatch/hashmatch -p '*.[chS]' arm.hash arch/unicore32/ | grep -e "|" | wc -l
9302

The tool claims unicore32 shares 57% with arch/arm. It gets confused in
the same way because unicore32 started with the ARM port as the code
base. Do we want it merged with arch/arm based on hashmatch?

According to this tool, AArch64 also shared 23% with x86, relatively
large given that it started from the arch/arm port (which in turn
started from arch/i386 long time ago).

I can go on and compare architectures with each-other but I really think
it's a waste of time.

> In 2.5.5, when arch/x86_64 was introduced it was 35412 lines of code.
> hashmatch (http://www.samba.org/~tridge/hashmatch) says that about 24642
> are identical with arch/i386 in the same kernel.  That's 70%.  Some of
> that's boilerplate: 9610 lines are in common with arch/sparc64 (27%),
> so let's say that 43% of x86-64 was specifically sharable with i386.
> 
> arch/aarch64/ is 22016 line of code.  Hashmatch says 12509 (57%) is in
> common with arch/arm.  But only 3232 lines (15%) are in common with
> sparc.  So let's say that 42% of aarch64 is specifically sharable with
> arm.

This tool also shows that pretty much most of the atomic.h file in
AArch64 is the same with AArch32. That's completely wrong as the
assembly syntax is different for the two architectures (even the asm
comment has changed from @ to //). That's a file that can never be
shared.

So ignoring the misleading tool, I did an analysis of the code
similarities with AArch32 a couple of months ago. It's about 5% files
that are close and could shared relatively easily but a significant part
of those are simple (header) files without algorithmic value and with
the copyright note being sometimes being longer than the code. There is
another 5-7% code that looks similar but merging them with AArch32
require more #ifdef's around the code (have a look at
arch/{arm,aarch64}/mm/mmu.c as an example).

The above is just on the current small AArch64 code base. I already said
a few times, there is still significant development to be done.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-11 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-06 21:05 [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 01/36] atomic64_test: Simplify the #ifdef for atomic64_dec_if_positive() test Catalin Marinas
2012-07-18  4:33   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-18  9:06     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 02/36] ipc: Add COMPAT_SHMLBA support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-18  5:53   ` Jon Masters
2012-07-18  9:03     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 03/36] ipc: allow compat IPC version field parsing if !ARCH_WANT_OLD_COMPAT_IPC Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 04/36] ipc: compat: use signed size_t types for msgsnd and msgrcv Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 05/36] fs: Build sys_stat64() and friends if __ARCH_WANT_COMPAT_STAT64 Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 06/36] fdt: Add generic dt_memblock_reserve() function Catalin Marinas
2012-07-07 21:18   ` Rob Herring
2012-07-07 21:18     ` Rob Herring
2012-07-08  9:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-08  9:43       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 07/36] AArch64: Assembly macros and definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-07-07  5:57   ` Greg KH
2012-07-08  9:23     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-20 14:22   ` [07/36] " Christopher Covington
2012-07-24 16:40     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 08/36] AArch64: Kernel booting and initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:32   ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-08  9:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-23 17:48       ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-23 17:58         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-18  6:57   ` Jon Masters
2012-07-18  9:07     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-20  7:11       ` Jon Masters
2012-07-19 17:31     ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-20  7:10       ` Jon Masters
2012-07-20  8:28         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-20 10:52           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-20 12:32             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-20 13:16               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-20 13:47         ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-20 13:52           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-20 13:48       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-20 14:53         ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-23 20:52   ` [08/36] " Christopher Covington
2012-07-24 16:24     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-24 18:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-24 23:20         ` Frank Rowand
2012-07-25  8:34         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-24 19:42   ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-25  8:47     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-25 13:39       ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 09/36] AArch64: Exception handling Catalin Marinas
2012-08-09 17:05   ` [09/36] " Christopher Covington
2012-08-09 17:23     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-08-09 19:19       ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 10/36] AArch64: MMU definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-10-02  0:43   ` Jon Masters
2012-10-02 15:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 11/36] AArch64: MMU initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 12/36] AArch64: MMU fault handling and page table management Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 13/36] AArch64: Process management Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 14/36] AArch64: CPU support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 15/36] AArch64: Cache maintenance routines Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 16/36] AArch64: TLB maintenance functionality Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 17/36] AArch64: IRQ handling Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:05 ` [PATCH 18/36] AArch64: Atomic operations Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 19/36] AArch64: Device specific operations Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 20/36] AArch64: DMA mapping API Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 21/36] AArch64: SMP support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 22/36] AArch64: ELF definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 23/36] AArch64: System calls handling Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 24/36] AArch64: VDSO support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 25/36] AArch64: Signal handling support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 26/36] AArch64: User access library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 27/36] AArch64: 32-bit (compat) applications support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 28/36] AArch64: Floating point and SIMD Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 29/36] AArch64: Debugging support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 30/36] AArch64: Performance counters support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 31/36] AArch64: Miscellaneous library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 32/36] AArch64: Loadable modules Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 33/36] AArch64: Generic timers support Catalin Marinas
2012-07-12  0:18   ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-12 10:09     ` Marc Zyngier
2012-07-12 10:56       ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-12 16:57         ` John Stultz
2012-07-12 17:31           ` Marc Zyngier
2012-07-12 17:39             ` John Stultz
2012-07-13 12:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-13 16:02                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-13 16:32                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-13 18:30                   ` John Stultz
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 34/36] AArch64: Miscellaneous header files Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 35/36] AArch64: Build infrastructure Catalin Marinas
2012-07-06 21:06 ` [PATCH 36/36] AArch64: MAINTAINERS update Catalin Marinas
2012-08-10 16:24   ` [36/36] " Christopher Covington
2012-08-10 16:24     ` Christopher Covington
2012-07-06 22:58 ` [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port Alan Cox
2012-07-07 21:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-07 23:14   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-07 23:29     ` Alan Cox
2012-07-09 11:35       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-09 13:51         ` Alan Cox
2012-07-09 15:32           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-09 15:49             ` Alan Cox
2012-07-09 16:02             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-09 16:33               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-07  3:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-07-09 12:32   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-09 13:06     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-07-09 13:56       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-09 14:02         ` Matthew Garrett
2012-07-09 15:46           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-07  3:53 ` Olof Johansson
2012-07-07 19:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-07 23:45     ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-08  5:05       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-07-08 20:28         ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-08  7:54     ` Jon Masters
2012-07-08 11:17       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2012-07-08 18:13         ` Jon Masters
2012-07-08 18:31       ` Jon Masters
2012-07-08 22:24         ` Dennis Gilmore
2012-07-09  2:01           ` Jon Masters
2012-07-09  8:57             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-09 13:33             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-08 20:31       ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-08 23:32         ` Jon Masters
2012-07-10  7:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-10 10:10       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-10 15:33         ` Alan Cox
2012-07-10 16:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-10 20:35             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-10 21:19               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-10 21:48                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-11  8:20                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-11 11:30                 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-10 21:44               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-11  8:55                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-11  5:26             ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-11 10:53               ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2012-07-12  2:08                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-10 16:57           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-10 16:52         ` Dennis Gilmore
2012-07-10 17:14         ` Joe Perches
2012-07-10 18:01           ` Jan Ceuleers
2012-07-10 18:05             ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-07-10 20:16           ` Alexander Holler
2012-07-14 22:16             ` Jon Masters
2012-07-10 22:08         ` Chris Adams
2012-07-14  9:30         ` Pavel Machek
2012-07-15 12:16           ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-15 19:43             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-15 21:33               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-16 12:16                 ` Pavel Machek
2012-07-17  7:05                   ` Jon Masters
2012-07-17  8:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17  9:50                       ` Alan Cox
2012-07-18  2:36                         ` Jon Masters
2012-07-17 10:45                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-16  9:26               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-17  6:53               ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-17  8:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-16  8:24             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-17  7:09               ` Jon Masters
2012-07-17  8:37               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-15 23:21         ` Måns Rullgård
2012-07-15 23:53           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-17 22:18             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-17 22:35               ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18  2:33                 ` Jon Masters
2012-07-18 15:27                   ` Dennis Gilmore
2012-07-18 17:14                     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-18 17:25                       ` Måns Rullgård
2012-07-18 19:35                       ` Jon Masters
2012-07-18 19:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 14:16     ` Guillem Jover
2012-07-07 23:42   ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-08 10:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-09 12:31     ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-07  9:30 ` Mikael Pettersson
2012-07-07 19:21   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2012-07-10 10:12   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-14  9:35     ` Pavel Machek
2012-07-15 11:36       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-16 16:19         ` Pavel Machek
2012-07-16 19:45           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-16 19:47           ` Måns Rullgård
2012-07-18  5:35 ` Jon Masters
2012-07-18  9:13   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-07-26 11:59 ` Catalin Marinas
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