On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 09:42:48AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:36:42 +0200, > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 09:31:30AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:08:13 +0200, > > > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 08:57:13AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:45:23 +0200, > > > > > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent changes to the firmware loading helpers cause drivers to stall > > > > > > when firmware is loaded during the module_init() call. The snd-hda-intel > > > > > > module requests firmware if the patch= parameter is used to load a patch > > > > > > file. This patch works around the problem by deferring the probe in such > > > > > > cases, which will cause the module to load successfully and the driver > > > > > > binding to the device outside the module_init() call. > > > > > > > > > > Is the "recent" change meant 3.6 kernel, or in linux-next? > > > > > > > > > > In anyway, I don't understand why such a change was allowed. Most > > > > > drivers do call request_firmware() at the device probing time. > > > > > If this really has to be resolved in the driver side, it must be a bug > > > > > in the firmware loader core code. > > > > > > > > A good explanation of the problem and subsequent discussion can be found > > > > here: > > > > > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/49975 > > > > > > Yeah, but it doesn't justify this ugly module option. > > > It's a simple bug. Papering over it with this option doesn't fix > > > anything. > > > > It's not an option, all it does is defer probing if and only if the > > patch parameter was specified to make sure the firmware load won't > > stall. I realize that this may not be an optimal solution, but at least > > it fixes the problem with no fallout. > > Ah sorry, I misread the patch. > > Then it shouldn't be checked at that point. Since 3.5 kernel, the > probing code was already split for vga_switcheroo support. Yes, I saw that. But unless you actually use vga_switcheroo, the second stage, azx_probe_continue(), will still be called from azx_probe() and therefore ultimately from module_init(). Before coming up with this patch I actually did play around a bit with using the asynchronous firmware load functions but it turned out to be rather difficult to do so I opted for the easy way. The biggest problem I faced was that since patch loading needs to be done very early on, a lot of the initialization would need to be done after .probe() and many things could still fail, so cleaning up after errors would become increasingly difficult. > The point you added is the second stage. I don't understand this sentence. Thierry