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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf: SNB exclusive PMU access for INST_RETIRED:PREC_DIST
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:15:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121024081519.GA29182@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBRhyHNiHvPLCQB3zOkH5oY9+Cn-mmMUp0rveBe+mg-z_Q@mail.gmail.com>


* Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > * Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > * Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > > > This isn't limited to admin, right? So the above turns into a DoS on the
> >> >> > > > console.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > Ok, so how about a WARN_ON_ONCE() instead?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That should be fine I guess ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> imho there is need for a generic mechanism to return an error
> >> >> string to the user program without such hacks.
> >> >
> >> > Agreed - we could return an 'extended errno' long error return
> >> > value, which in reality is a pointer to an error string (in
> >> > perf_attr::error_str), and copy that string to user-space at
> >> > perf syscall return time.
> >> >
> >> I assume by perf_attr:error_str, you actually mean:
> >>
> >> struct perf_event_attr {
> >>    char error_str[PERF_ERR_LEN];
> >> };
> >>
> >> Right?
> >
> > I don't think we should allocate space in the attr, instead we
> > should use something like:
> >
> >         u8 __user       *err_str;
> >         u32              err_str_len;
> >
> > which would be filled in by tooling with a string and a max_len
> > value, and strncpy_to_user() could do the rest on the kernel
> > side. [ A minor complication is that we don't have a
> > strncpy_to_user() method at the moment. ]
> >
> > Static strings could be handled this way.
> >
> > [ Dynamic strings could be supported too with a few tricks,
> >   although I doubt it matters in practice. ]
> >
>
> Ok, but this still limits returning error string to the 
> perf_event_open() syscall, not read(), ioctl() and such.

Yes - but this should be enough to handle most of the cases in 
practice - because the richness of the various perf components 
is mostly exposed via the perf syscall. By the time we get to 
read() and ioctl() we are in a pretty well defined domain.

Also, I don't think people want the (small but nonzero) overhead 
of extended error reporting for read or ioctl.

> I am fine with this change. However, I think it should be 
> added separately from my inst_retired:prec_dist patch. It has 
> a broader impact.

Most definitely.

Thanks,

	Ingo

      reply	other threads:[~2012-10-24  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-19 14:52 [PATCH 0/2] perf: enforce exclusive PMU access for SNB INST_RETIRED:PREC_DIST Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: add event modifier to request exclusive PMU access Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 15:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 15:17     ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 15:23       ` Jiri Olsa
2012-10-19 15:47         ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 15:53           ` Jiri Olsa
2012-10-19 15:58             ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 15:46       ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-19 16:07         ` Jiri Olsa
2012-10-19 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: SNB exclusive PMU access for INST_RETIRED:PREC_DIST Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 15:49   ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-19 15:58     ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 16:31     ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-19 16:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 17:20         ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-21 16:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-21 17:54             ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-21 18:03               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-22 11:31                 ` Stephane Eranian
2012-10-24  8:15                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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