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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>,
	Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@gmail.com>,
	Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.8-rc6-nohz4
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:59:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130211095909.GG23932@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hwKzcNEr8G1h1SErhwxAuQKR3rEX3cxxCyxf_LFHudL0Q@mail.gmail.com>


* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm worried about the proliferation of not easily separable 
> > config options. We already have way too many timer and 
> > scheduler options to begin with.
> 
> Like Steve said, this is for overhead reasons. The syscall 
> uses the slow path so that's ok. But we add a callback to 
> every exception, irq entry/exit, scheduler sched switch, 
> signal handling, user and kernel preemption point. This all 
> could be lowered using static keys but even that doesn't make 
> me feel comfortable with this idea.
> 
> Moreover, for now this is going to be used only on extreme 
> usecases such as real time and HPC. If we really have to merge 
> this into an all-in-one nohz kconfig, I suggest we wait for 
> the feature to mature a bit and prove that it can be useful 
> further those specialized workloads, and also that we can 
> ensure it's off-case overhead is not significant.

I have no problems with making it an option initially - as long 
as the options are logically named and interconnected.

In terms of overhead, a big plus is the reduction in user-space 
execution overhead. At HZ=1000 we easily have 0.5%-1.0% overhead 
currently. That is a *lot* of overhead if the box does mostly 
user-space execution - which most boxes do, both servers and 
desktops - not HPC systems.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-11  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-06 18:28 [ANNOUNCE] 3.8-rc6-nohz4 Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07  2:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 11:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-07 15:41     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-07 16:12     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 16:30       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-07 17:06         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:37           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-07 16:25     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 16:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 16:45         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 17:03           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:45             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 19:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-07 19:19         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-08 15:51         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-11  9:59           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-02-07 16:41   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 17:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:18       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 19:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-07 19:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-08  6:18           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-08 15:53           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-08 16:18             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-08 16:24               ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-08 18:57             ` Clark Williams
2013-02-08 19:43               ` Christoph Lameter

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