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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Ben Jencks <ben@bjencks.net>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:46:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130213214654.GG22867@thinkpad-t410> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130213205558.GA16559@srcf.ucam.org>

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 08:55:58PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:32:28PM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 07:09:14PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > Right. My concern here is that Windows clearly doesn't trigger the 
> > > issue, and so there's some chance that we'll see similar issues on other 
> > > machines. Disabling Windows 8 compatibility isn't really an option. One 
> > > choice might be to have the ACPI video driver set all intermediate 
> > > values if the system makes the Windows 8 OSI call?
> > 
> > This turns out to have some problems. The hotkeys on the x230 at least
> > generate increase/decrease brightness notifications. In response
> > acpi_video reads the current brightness level via _BQC and decides what
> > the next value should be. A value adjacent to a working value is never
> > another working value on this machine, so _BCM does nothing. The next
> > time a notification comes _BQC returns the same value as it did the
> > previous time. Obviously this gets us nowhere.
> 
> Nrgh. Having this logic in the kernel has always been miserable. On the 
> other hand, having _BQC return wrong values is arguably even worse.
> 
> > The (untested) fix I've come up with is to use the cached value for the
> > current brightness rather than asking the firmware. I'm assuming though
> > that acpi_video would be using the cached values already if there wasn't
> > a chance that their changing without its knowledge?
> 
> Yeah. What I'd suggest here is calling _BQC after every change, and if 
> it returns the old value throw a firmware bug message and fall back to 
> using a cached one.

After every brightness change? Maybe it would be better to just test for
this during initialization, then set device->cap._BQC to 0 so we won't
use it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-13 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-11 16:21 [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:06   ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 19:09     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:31       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-12  3:05         ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:32       ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:55         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 21:04           ` Ben Jencks
2013-02-13 21:49             ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:46           ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2013-02-13 21:54             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:04               ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:38           ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39             ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest Windows version requested via _OSI Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 2/5] acpi_video: Avoid unnecessary conversions between backlight levels and indexes Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 3/5] acpi_video: Add workaround for broken Windows 8 backlight implementations Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:44                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 12:35                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 13:46                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 14:02                       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 14:27                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 4/5] acpi_video: Disable use of _BQC when value doesn't match those set through _BCM Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 5/5] acpi_video: Don't handle ACPI brightness notifications by default Seth Forshee
2013-08-02  5:55                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-02 14:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-02 14:52                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03  0:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03  9:46                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 11:23                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03 12:10                             ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 22:07                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04  1:08                                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-18 21:25             ` [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  5:18               ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-02  9:15                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 11:23                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-02 13:44                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 19:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-19 12:24               ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-20 22:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21  2:29                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-21 15:46                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-02-13 21:09       ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-01  1:53 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-01 13:03   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  9:08     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 13:00       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 13:43         ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03  7:04         ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-03  7:27           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03 13:45             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:39               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-19  3:15           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-20 22:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21 11:07               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 12:11                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 21:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22  9:39                   ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 11:51                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22 12:11                       ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:06                         ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 13:40                           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:56                             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 14:07                               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 15:11                                 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22  2:18             ` joeyli
2013-04-22 10:08               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 12:00                 ` joeyli

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