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From: Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@open-mesh.com>,
	Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Pedersen <thomas@cozybit.com>,
	Marek Lindner <marek@open-mesh.com>,
	Mathias Kretschmer <mathias.kretschmer@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] design discussion: Collecting information for (non-peer) stations
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:19:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130220171955.GA1556@pandem0nium> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361206302.8555.36.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net>

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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 05:51:42PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 17:07 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 07:58:18 -0800, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 16:49 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 07:43:26 -0800, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > > > > I did not like this approach because the sta_info struct is so big that
> > > > > > when we want to fill the stats substruct only we will waste a lot of bytes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't understand your point.
> > > > > 
> > > > > struct sta_info {
> > > > >    ...
> > > > >    struct stats stats;
> > > > > };
> > > > 
> > > > My concern is about those "..." that we are allocating within the sta_info struct
> > > > that we will never use for every non-peer station.
> > > > 
> > > > While if we used the struct below (with its own hash table), we would allocate
> > > > only the space needed for the stats.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > struct stats_entry {
> > > > >    struct hash/list/whatever;
> > > > >    struct stats stats;
> > > > > };
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > no?
> > > > Maybe I misunderstood your idea?
> > > 
> > > But I'm not saying that these are mutually exclusive, I'm saying both
> > > should exist.
> > 
> > Ah ok..Sorry, but I did not take this as an option :)
> > 
> > So, if I understood correctly, this means one table lookup for peer stations,
> > while two table lookups for non peers (first in sta_hash, which will fail). Right?
> > 
> > This would save one look up for each peer, since we have to do perform one of
> > them anyway (now I fully understood your previous statement!).
> 
> Right... But the failing sta lookup has to happen anyway, so it really
> adds practically no cost in the peer case, and a singe lookup in the
> "non-peer already exists" case.

To sum from this discussion (I think it's a good idea):

 * embed the stats_entry into the sta_info
 * update peer-stats by modifying the embedded stats_entry (we do the lookup anyway
 * keep the non-peer stats in a seperate hash, and only keep stats_entry for them (we don't need
   the full sta_info after all).

We should consider some corner cases here, e.g. adding stas, then we have to
copy+remove the stats from the non-peer hash, or removing stas, then we have
to copy the so-far collected stats to the non-peer hash.

If you are okay with it, we can use the NL80211_CMD_GET_STATION command
(as in iw station dump), and add a seperate flag to give info for non-peer sta.

What about the other commands I suggested (read+reset, start, stop)? For read+reset,
we could just send yet another flag (RESET_STATS) with the GET_STATION command, but
for start/stop we would need new commands? Or would you have any better idea?

@Thomas: Is there anything to consider for 802.11s?

Thanks for your input,
	Simon

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-20 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15 17:19 [RFC] design discussion: Collecting information for (non-peer) stations Simon Wunderlich
2013-02-18 14:30 ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 14:33   ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 14:46     ` Antonio Quartulli
2013-02-18 15:29       ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 15:38         ` Antonio Quartulli
2013-02-18 15:43           ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 15:49             ` Antonio Quartulli
2013-02-18 15:58               ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 16:07                 ` Antonio Quartulli
2013-02-18 16:51                   ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 19:36                     ` Mathias Kretschmer
2013-02-20 17:19                     ` Simon Wunderlich [this message]
2013-02-20 19:10                       ` Thomas Pedersen
2013-02-21 17:19                         ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-02-19  9:32 ` Thomas Hühn
2013-02-20 17:49   ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-02-20 18:04   ` Mathias Kretschmer
2013-02-22 10:07 ` Zefir Kurtisi
2013-02-22 11:43   ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-02-22 12:34     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2013-02-22 16:21 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-22 16:36   ` Antonio Quartulli
2013-02-22 17:03     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-02-22 17:42       ` Adrian Chadd
2013-02-25 10:28         ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-03-08 14:13           ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-03-11 12:01             ` Zefir Kurtisi
2013-03-25 14:43               ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-02-22 17:42       ` Thomas Pedersen

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