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From: Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2, RFC 20/30] ramfs: enable transparent huge page cache
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:22:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130405082217.GA13569@hacker.(null)> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130405080106.GB32126@blaptop>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 05:01:06PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:47:25PM +0800, Simon Jeons wrote:
>> Hi Minchan,
>> On 04/03/2013 09:11 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> >On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:15:23PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> >>On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> >>>Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> >>>>From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>ramfs is the most simple fs from page cache point of view. Let's start
>> >>>>transparent huge page cache enabling here.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>For now we allocate only non-movable huge page. It's not yet clear if
>> >>>>movable page is safe here and what need to be done to make it safe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>> >>>>---
>> >>>>  fs/ramfs/inode.c |    6 +++++-
>> >>>>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>diff --git a/fs/ramfs/inode.c b/fs/ramfs/inode.c
>> >>>>index c24f1e1..da30b4f 100644
>> >>>>--- a/fs/ramfs/inode.c
>> >>>>+++ b/fs/ramfs/inode.c
>> >>>>@@ -61,7 +61,11 @@ struct inode *ramfs_get_inode(struct super_block *sb,
>> >>>>  		inode_init_owner(inode, dir, mode);
>> >>>>  		inode->i_mapping->a_ops = &ramfs_aops;
>> >>>>  		inode->i_mapping->backing_dev_info = &ramfs_backing_dev_info;
>> >>>>-		mapping_set_gfp_mask(inode->i_mapping, GFP_HIGHUSER);
>> >>>>+		/*
>> >>>>+		 * TODO: what should be done to make movable safe?
>> >>>>+		 */
>> >>>>+		mapping_set_gfp_mask(inode->i_mapping,
>> >>>>+				GFP_TRANSHUGE & ~__GFP_MOVABLE);
>> >>>Hugh, I've found old thread with the reason why we have GFP_HIGHUSER here, not
>> >>>GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE:
>> >>>
>> >>>http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/27/156
>> >>>
>> >>>It seems the origin reason is not longer valid, correct?
>> >>Incorrect, I believe: so far as I know, the original reason remains
>> >>valid - though it would only require a couple of good small changes
>> >>to reverse that - or perhaps you have already made these changes?
>> >>
>> >>The original reason is that ramfs pages are not migratable,
>> >>therefore they should be allocated from an unmovable area.
>> >>
>> >>As I understand it (and I would have preferred to run a test to check
>> >>my understanding before replying, but don't have time for that), ramfs
>> >>pages cannot be migrated for two reasons, neither of them a good reason.
>> >>
>> >>One reason (okay, it wouldn't have been quite this way in 2006) is that
>> >>ramfs (rightly) calls mapping_set_unevictable(), so its pages will fail
>> >>the page_evictable() test, so they will be marked PageUnevictable, so
>> >>__isolate_lru_page() will refuse to isolate them for migration (except
>> >>for CMA).
>> >True.
>> >
>> >>I am strongly in favour of removing that limitation from
>> >>__isolate_lru_page() (and the thread you pointed - thank you - shows Mel
>> >>and Christoph were both in favour too); and note that there is no such
>> >>restriction in the confusingly similar but different isolate_lru_page().
>> >>
>> >>Some people do worry that migrating Mlocked pages would introduce the
>> >>occasional possibility of a minor fault (with migration_entry_wait())
>> >>on an Mlocked region which never faulted before.  I tend to dismiss
>> >>that worry, but maybe I'm wrong to do so: maybe there should be a
>> >>tunable for realtimey people to set, to prohibit page migration from
>> >>mlocked areas; but the default should be to allow it.
>> >I agree.
>> >Just FYI for mlocked page migration
>> >
>> >I tried migratioin of mlocked page and Johannes and Mel had a concern
>> >about that.
>> >http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1109.0/00175.html
>> >
>> >But later, Peter already acked it and I guess by reading the thread that
>> >Hugh was in favour when page migration was merged first time.
>> >
>> >http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=133697873414205&w=2
>> >http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=133700341823358&w=2
>> >
>> >Many people said mlock means memory-resident, NOT pinning so it could
>> >allow minor fault while Mel still had a concern except CMA.
>> >http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=133674219714419&w=2
>> 
>> How about add a knob?
>
>Maybe, volunteering?

Hi Minchan,

I can be the volunteer, what I care is if add a knob make sense?

Regards,
Wanpeng Li 

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-05  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 243+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-14 17:50 [PATCHv2, RFC 00/30] Transparent huge page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 01/30] block: implement add_bdi_stat() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 14:46   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 14:46     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 17:19     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 17:19       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 02/30] mm: implement zero_huge_user_segment and friends Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 15:23   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 15:23     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22  9:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22  9:21       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 03/30] mm: drop actor argument of do_generic_file_read() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  0:21   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  0:21     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  0:27   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  0:27     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:22     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:22       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 15:26       ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 15:26         ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 04/30] radix-tree: implement preload for multiple contiguous elements Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 15:56   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 15:56     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22  9:47     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22  9:47       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 14:38       ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 14:38         ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-25 13:03         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-25 13:03           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-05  3:37   ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  3:37     ` Ric Mason
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 05/30] thp, mm: avoid PageUnevictable on active/inactive lru lists Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 16:15   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 16:15     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 10:11     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 10:11       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-05  3:42       ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  3:42         ` Ric Mason
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 06/30] thp, mm: basic defines for transparent huge page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 07/30] thp, mm: introduce mapping_can_have_hugepages() predicate Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 16:21   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 16:21     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 10:12     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 10:12       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 14:44       ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 14:44         ` Dave Hansen
2013-04-02 14:46         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-02 14:46           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-05  3:45   ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  3:45     ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  3:48     ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  3:48       ` Ric Mason
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 08/30] thp, mm: rewrite add_to_page_cache_locked() to support huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  1:30   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  1:30     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:23     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:23       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:25       ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:25         ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:50         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:50           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:55           ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:55             ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 15:05             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 15:05               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 17:11   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 17:11     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 10:34     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 10:34       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 14:51       ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 14:51         ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 09/30] thp, mm: rewrite delete_from_page_cache() " Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  2:25   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  2:25     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:23     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:23       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 10/30] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 17:20   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 17:20     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 11/30] thp, mm: handle tail pages in page_cache_get_speculative() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-05  4:03   ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  4:03     ` Ric Mason
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 12/30] thp, mm: add event counters for huge page alloc on write to a file Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-21 17:59   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 17:59     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-26  8:40     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-26  8:40       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-05  4:05       ` Ric Mason
2013-04-05  4:05         ` Ric Mason
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 13/30] thp, mm: implement grab_cache_huge_page_write_begin() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  2:34   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  2:34     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:24       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:30       ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:30         ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:35           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:37           ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:37             ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-21 18:15   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 18:15     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-26 10:48     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-26 10:48       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-26 15:40       ` Dave
2013-03-26 15:40         ` Dave
2013-03-21 18:16   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-21 18:16     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 14/30] thp, mm: naive support of thp in generic read/write routines Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  3:11   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  3:11     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:27     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:27       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 15:22   ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-22 15:22     ` Dave Hansen
2013-03-28 12:25     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-28 12:25       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 15/30] thp, libfs: initial support of thp in simple_read/write_begin/write_end Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 18:01   ` Dave
2013-03-22 18:01     ` Dave
2013-03-28 14:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-28 14:29       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 16/30] thp: handle file pages in split_huge_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  6:15   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  6:15     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:26     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:26       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:33       ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:33         ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-22 18:18   ` Dave
2013-03-22 18:18     ` Dave
2013-03-28 14:32     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-28 14:32       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 17/30] thp: wait_split_huge_page(): serialize over i_mmap_mutex too Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 18:22   ` Dave
2013-03-22 18:22     ` Dave
2013-03-28 15:08     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-28 15:08       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 18/30] thp, mm: truncate support for transparent huge page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 18:29   ` Dave
2013-03-22 18:29     ` Dave
2013-03-28 15:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-28 15:31       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 19/30] thp, mm: split huge page on mmap file page Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  6:58   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  6:58     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:29       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:35       ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:35         ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:45         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:45           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 20/30] ramfs: enable transparent huge page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-02 16:28   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-02 16:28     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-04-02 22:15     ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-02 22:15       ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-03  1:11       ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-03  1:11         ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-05  6:47         ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-05  6:47           ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-05  8:01           ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-05  8:01             ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-05  8:22             ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2013-04-05  8:22             ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]             ` <515e89d2.e725320a.3a74.7fe7SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-04-05  8:31               ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-05  8:31                 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-05  8:35                 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05  8:35                 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05 13:46                 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-04-05 13:46                   ` Christoph Lameter
2013-04-03 13:53       ` Christoph Lameter
2013-04-03 13:53         ` Christoph Lameter
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 21/30] x86-64, mm: proper alignment mappings with hugepages Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-22 18:37   ` Dave
2013-03-22 18:37     ` Dave
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 22/30] mm: add huge_fault() callback to vm_operations_struct Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 23/30] thp: prepare zap_huge_pmd() to uncharge file pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  7:09   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  7:09     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:30     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:30       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 24/30] thp: move maybe_pmd_mkwrite() out of mk_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  7:31   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  7:31     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 25/30] thp, mm: basic huge_fault implementation for generic_file_vm_ops Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  7:44   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  7:44     ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:30     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:30       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 26/30] thp: extract fallback path from do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() to a function Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 27/30] thp: initial implementation of do_huge_linear_fault() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 28/30] thp: handle write-protect exception to file-backed huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 29/30] thp: call __vma_adjust_trans_huge() for file-backed VMA Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 30/30] thp: map file-backed huge pages on fault Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-14 17:50   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15  0:33 ` [PATCHv2, RFC 00/30] Transparent huge page cache Hillf Danton
2013-03-15  0:33   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-15 13:33   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-15 13:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-18  4:03 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18  4:03   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18  5:23   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 11:19     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-18 11:19       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-18 11:29       ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 11:29         ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-18 11:42         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-18 11:42           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-03-18 11:42           ` Ric Mason
2013-03-18 11:42             ` Ric Mason
2013-03-20  1:09 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-20  1:09   ` Simon Jeons

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