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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	owasserm@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com,
	gokul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 03/12] comprehensive protocol documentation
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:59:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130414115911.GA4923@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51681DAA.3000503@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 04:43:54PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 12/04/2013 13:25, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:53:11PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> Il 12/04/2013 12:48, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
> >>> 1.  You have two protocols already and this does not make sense in
> >>> version 1 of the patch.
> >>
> >> It makes sense if we consider it experimental (add x- in front of
> >> transport and capability) and would like people to play with it.
> >>
> >> Paolo
> > 
> > But it's not testable yet.  I see problems just reading the
> > documentation.  Author thinks "ulimit -l 10000000000" on both source and
> > destination is just fine.  This can easily crash host or cause OOM
> > killer to kill QEMU.  So why is there any need for extra testers?  Fix
> > the major bugs first.
> > 
> > There's a similar issue with device assignment - we can't fix it there,
> > and despite being available for years, this was one of two reasons that
> > has kept this feature out of hands of lots of users (and assuming guest
> > has lots of zero pages won't work: balloon is not widely used either
> > since it depends on a well-behaved guest to work correctly).
> 
> I agree assuming guest has lots of zero pages won't work, but I think
> you are overstating the importance of overcommit.  Let's mark the damn
> thing as experimental, and stop making perfect the enemy of good.
> 
> Paolo

It looks like we have to decide, before merging, whether migration with
rdma that breaks overcommit is worth it or not.  Since the author made
it very clear he does not intend to make it work with overcommit, ever.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-14 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09  3:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 00/12] new formal protocol design mrhines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 01/12] ./configure with and without --enable-rdma mrhines
2013-04-09 17:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 18:07     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 02/12] check for CONFIG_RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09 16:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 03/12] comprehensive protocol documentation mrhines
2013-04-10  5:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 13:04     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 13:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 15:29         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 17:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 20:05             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11  7:19               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 13:12                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 13:48                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 13:58                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 14:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 14:50                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 14:56                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 17:49                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 19:15                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 20:33                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12 10:48                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-12 10:53                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12 11:25                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-12 14:43                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-14 11:59                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-04-14 14:09                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-14 14:40                                               ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 14:27                                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 16:03                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 16:07                                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 16:40                                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 18:30                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 19:06                                                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 21:10                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15  1:06                                                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15  6:00                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 13:07                                                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 22:20                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15  8:28                                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 13:08                                                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15  8:26                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12 13:47                                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14  8:28                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 14:31                                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 18:51                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 19:43                                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 21:16                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15  1:10                                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15  6:10                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15  8:34                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 13:24                                                     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 13:30                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 19:55                                                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:01                           ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:18                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:33                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 15:46                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 15:47                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 15:58                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 16:06                                   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12  5:10                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12  5:26                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12  5:54                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:44                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 16:09                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 17:04                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 17:27                                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 16:13                             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 04/12] introduce qemu_ram_foreach_block() mrhines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 05/12] core RDMA migration logic w/ new protocol mrhines
2013-04-09 16:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 06/12] connection-establishment for RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 07/12] additional savevm.c accessors " mrhines
2013-04-09 17:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 17:31   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-09 18:04     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 08/12] new capabilities added and check for QMP string 'rdma' mrhines
2013-04-09 17:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-10  1:11     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10  8:07       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-10 10:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 12:24         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 17:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 09/12] transmit pc.ram using RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09 16:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 10/12] new header file prototypes for savevm.c mrhines
2013-04-09 16:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 11/12] update schema to define new capabilities mrhines
2013-04-09 16:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 12/12] don't set nonblock on invalid file descriptor mrhines
2013-04-09 16:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09  4:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 00/12] new formal protocol design Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 12:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 14:23   ` Michael R. Hines

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