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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] watchdog: Boot-disable by default on full dynticks
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:14:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130520181424.GA22846@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130520175229.GI133453@redhat.com>

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 01:52:29PM -0400, Don Zickus wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 06:01:51PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > When the watchdog runs, it prevents the full dynticks
> > CPUs from stopping their tick because the hard lockup
> > detector uses perf events internally, which in turn
> > rely on the periodic tick.
> > 
> > Since this is a rather confusing behaviour that is not
> > easy to track down and identify for those who want to
> > test CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL, let's default disable the
> > watchdog on boot time when full dynticks is enabled.
> > 
> > The user can still enable it later on runtime using
> > proc or sysctl.
> 
> I thought Peter committed a patch to perf so that this isn't needed any
> more?

There is the patchset that converts perf_event_task_tick() to an hrtimer.
But I'm not sure it covers everything. Also this will be for the next merge
window. And in the end this moves the problem elsewhere: we still have timer
interrupts, they just come as specific hrtimers, although may be less often,
I haven't looked yet at the patchset.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-20 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-20 16:01 [PATCH 0/8] nohz: Random fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] nohz: Warn if the machine can not perform nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [PATCH 2/8] vtime: Use consistent clocks among nohz accounting Frederic Weisbecker
2013-06-03  9:47   ` Stefan Seyfried
2013-06-03 13:48     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-03 19:48     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-06-03 19:51       ` Stefan Seyfried
2013-06-03 20:12         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [PATCH 3/8] watchdog: Boot-disable by default on full dynticks Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 17:52   ` Don Zickus
2013-05-20 18:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [PATCH 4/8] kvm: Move guest entry/exit APIs to context_tracking Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [PATCH 5/8] nohz: Fix notifier return val that enforce timekeeping Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] kthread: Enable parking requests from setup() and unpark() callbacks Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-21  5:34   ` anish singh
2013-05-21  7:49     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-05-21  8:58       ` anish singh
2013-05-21  9:07         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-05-22 15:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-21  6:59   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-05 16:33     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] watchdog: Rename confusing state variable Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 17:53   ` Don Zickus
2013-05-20 16:01 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] watchdog: Fix internal state with boot user disabled watchdog Frederic Weisbecker
2013-05-20 17:54   ` Don Zickus

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