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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] net: introduce MAC_TABLE_CHANGED event
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:18:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130523171834.GA31349@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130523115403.4d5f587a@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:54:03AM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:17:23 +0300
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > The
> > > existing throttling approach ensures that if the event includes latest
> > > guest information, then the host doesn't even have to do do a query, and
> > > is guaranteed that reacting to the final event will always see the most
> > > recent request.  But most importantly, if the existing throttling works,
> > > why do we have to invent a one-off approach for this event instead of
> > > reusing existing code?
> 
> Sorry to restart this week old discussion, but I'm now reviewing the patch
> in question and I dislike how we're coupling the event and the query
> command.
> 
> > Because of the 1st issue above. A large delay because we
> 
> Has this been measured? How long is this large delay?
> 
> Also, is it impossible for management to issue query-rx-filter
> on a reasonable rate that would also cause the same problems?
> IOW, how can we be sure we're fixing anything without trying it
> on a real use-case scenario?

Play with priorities, you can make management arbitrarily slow.  It's
just not sane to assume any timing guarantees for tasks running on
Linux.

> > exceed an arbitrary throttling rate would be bad
> > for the guest. Contrast with delay in e.g.
> > device delete event.
> > The throttling mechanism is good for events that host cares
> > about, not for events that guest cares about.
> > 
> > > -- 
> > > Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
> > > Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-23 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-16 11:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] mac programming over macvtap Amos Kong
2013-05-16 11:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] net: introduce MAC_TABLE_CHANGED event Amos Kong
2013-05-16 12:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 12:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 12:24     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-16 12:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 12:52         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-16 14:58     ` Eric Blake
2013-05-16 15:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 15:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 15:12         ` Eric Blake
2013-05-16 15:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 15:24             ` Eric Blake
2013-05-23 15:54             ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-23 17:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-05-23 17:26                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-24 12:10                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 12:51                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-27  9:34                       ` Amos Kong
2013-05-27 13:10                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-27 13:24                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-27 22:43                             ` Amos Kong
2013-05-28 12:25                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-30 13:50                                 ` Amos Kong
2013-05-30 13:50                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Amos Kong
2013-05-30 13:57                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 13:57                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 13:54                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31  0:35                                   ` Amos Kong
2013-05-31  3:02                                     ` Amos Kong
2013-06-04  6:43                                       ` Amos Kong
2013-06-04  7:42                                         ` Amos Kong
2013-06-04 11:11                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-21  5:04     ` Amos Kong
2013-05-21  8:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-23  6:08         ` Amos Kong
2013-05-16 14:56   ` Eric Blake
2013-05-16 15:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] net: introduce command to query mac-table information Amos Kong
2013-05-16 12:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-21  3:31     ` Amos Kong
2013-05-16 15:38   ` Eric Blake
2013-05-23  4:03     ` Amos Kong
2013-05-17  7:39   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-21  4:46     ` Amos Kong
2013-05-21  7:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29  5:31   ` Jason Wang
2013-06-05  7:18     ` Amos Kong

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