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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	avi.kivity@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 03:53:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130530005338.GC19294@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A6006D.5060601@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:19:41PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 05/29/2013 08:39 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:03:19AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >>>>> the pages since other vcpus may be doing locklessly shadow
> >>>>> page walking
> >>>
> >>> Ah, yes, i agree with you.
> >>>
> >>> We can introduce a list, say kvm->arch.obsolte_pages, to link all of the
> >>> zapped-page, the page-shrink will free the page on that list first.
> >>>
> >>> Marcelo, if you do not have objection on  patch 1 ~ 8 and 11, could you please
> >>> let them merged first, and do add some comments and tlb optimization later?
> >>
> >> Exclude patch 11 please, since it depends on the "collapse" optimization.
> > 
> > I'm fine with patch 1 being merged. I think the remaining patches need better
> > understanding or explanation. The problems i see are:
> > 
> > 1) The magic number "10" to zap before considering reschedule is
> > annoying. It would be good to understand why it is needed at all.
> 
> ......
> 
> > 
> > But then again, the testcase is measuring kvm_mmu_zap_all performance
> > alone which we know is not a common operation, so perhaps there is
> > no need for that minimum-pages-to-zap-before-reschedule.
> 
> Well. Although, this is not the common operation, but this operation
> can be triggered by VCPU - it one VCPU take long time on zap-all-pages,
> other vcpus is missing IPI-synce, or missing IO. This is easily cause
> soft lockups if the vcpu is doing memslot-releated things.
> 
+1. If it is trigarable by a guest it may slow down the guest, but we
should not allow for it to slow down a host.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-30  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 19:55 [PATCH v7 00/11] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] KVM: x86: drop calling kvm_mmu_zap_all in emulator_fix_hypercall Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] KVM: MMU: fast invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:23   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-26  8:26     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-26 20:37       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 22:59         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-27  2:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] KVM: MMU: zap pages in batch Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:34   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27  2:20     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:18       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:02         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 11:11           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:09             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:21               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:00                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:02                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 16:03                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] KVM: MMU: show mmu_valid_gen in shadow page related tracepoints Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] KVM: MMU: add tracepoint for kvm_mmu_invalidate_all_pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: MMU: do not reuse the obsolete page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_obsolete_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  5:57   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:13     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:18       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:37           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:50             ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  8:09               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  8:33                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 11:13                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 12:39                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:03                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 15:57                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24  5:39                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24  5:53                           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28  0:13   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 14:51     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:43         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  6:12   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  6:26     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:24       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23  7:37         ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:38           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23  7:56             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-28  0:36   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:19     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29  3:03       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:39         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:19           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-30  0:53             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-05-30 16:24               ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-30 17:10                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-22 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] KVM: MMU: reduce KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD when root page is zapped Xiao Guangrong

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