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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, hkchu@google.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next rfc 1/3] net: avoid high order memory allocation for queues by using flex array
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:40:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130619154059.GA13735@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1371635763.3252.289.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:56:03AM -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 12:11 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > Well KVM supports up to 160 VCPUs on x86.
> > 
> > Creating a queue per CPU is very reasonable, and
> > assuming cache line size of 64 bytes, netdev_queue seems to be 320
> > bytes, that's 320*160 = 51200. So 12.5 pages, order-4 allocation.
> > I agree most people don't have such systems yet, but
> > they do exist.
> 
> Even so, it will just work, like a fork() is likely to work, even if a
> process needs order-1 allocation for kernel stack.
> 
> Some drivers still use order-10 allocations with kmalloc(), and nobody
> complained yet.
> 
> We had complains with mlx4 driver lately only bcause kmalloc() now gives
> a warning if allocations above MAX_ORDER are attempted.
> 
> Having a single pointer means that we can :
> 
> - Attempts a regular kmalloc() call, it will work most of the time.
> - fallback to vmalloc() _if_ kmalloc() failed.

That's a good trick too - vmalloc memory is a bit slower
on x86 since it's not using a huge page, but that's only
when we have lots of CPUs/queues...

Short term - how about switching to vmalloc if > 32 queues?

> Frankly, if you want one tx queue per cpu, I would rather use
> NETIF_F_LLTX, like some other virtual devices.
> 
> This way, you can have real per cpu memory, with proper NUMA affinity.
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-19 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  5:40 [net-next rfc 0/3] increase the limit of tuntap queues Jason Wang
2013-06-19  5:40 ` [net-next rfc 1/3] net: avoid high order memory allocation for queues by using flex array Jason Wang
2013-06-19  6:31   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19  7:14     ` Jason Wang
2013-06-19  9:11     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-19  9:56       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19 12:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-19 15:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-06-19 15:58           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19 16:06             ` David Laight
2013-06-19 16:06               ` David Laight
2013-06-19 16:28               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19 18:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-20  8:15               ` [PATCH net-next] net: allow large number of tx queues Eric Dumazet
2013-06-20  8:35                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-21  6:41                   ` Jason Wang
2013-06-21  7:12                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-23 10:29                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-24  6:57                 ` David Miller
2013-06-20  5:14         ` [net-next rfc 1/3] net: avoid high order memory allocation for queues by using flex array Jason Wang
2013-06-20  6:05           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19  5:40 ` [net-next rfc 2/3] tuntap: reduce the size of tun_struct " Jason Wang
2013-06-19  5:40 ` [net-next rfc 3/3] tuntap: increase the max queues to 16 Jason Wang
2013-06-19  6:34   ` Eric Dumazet
2013-06-19  7:15     ` Jason Wang
2013-06-19 19:16     ` Jerry Chu

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