From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys010amx164.postini.com [74.125.245.164]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CAF86B0032 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id xb12so1056641pbc.40 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:35:28 +0900 From: Minchan Kim Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vmpressure: consider "scanned < reclaimed" case when calculating a pressure level. Message-ID: <20130627153528.GA5006@gmail.com> References: <001f01ce6e15$b7109950$2531cbf0$%kim@samsung.com> <20130621012234.GF11659@bbox> <20130621091944.GC12424@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20130621162743.GA2837@gmail.com> <005601ce6f0c$5948ff90$0bdafeb0$%kim@samsung.com> <20130626073557.GD29127@bbox> <009601ce72fd$427eed70$c77cc850$%kim@samsung.com> <20130627093721.GC17647@dhcp22.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130627093721.GC17647@dhcp22.suse.cz> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Michal Hocko Cc: Hyunhee Kim , 'Anton Vorontsov' , linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, rob@landley.net, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, rientjes@google.com, kirill@shutemov.name, 'Kyungmin Park' Hi Michal, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:37:21AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Thu 27-06-13 15:12:10, Hyunhee Kim wrote: > > In vmpressure, the pressure level is calculated based on the ratio > > of how many pages were scanned vs. reclaimed in a given time window. > > However, there is a possibility that "scanned < reclaimed" in such a > > case, when reclaiming ends by fatal signal in shrink_inactive_list. > > So, with this patch, we just return "low" level when "scanned < reclaimed" > > happens not to have userland miss reclaim activity. > > Hmm, fatal signal pending on kswapd doesn't make sense to me so it has > to be a direct reclaim path. Does it really make sense to signal LOW > when there is probably a big memory pressure and somebody is killing the > current allocator? So, do you want to trigger critical instead of low? Now, current is going to die so we can expect shortly we can get a amount of memory, normally. but yeah, we cannot sure it happens within a bounded time since it couldn't use reserved memory pool unlike process killed by OOM. If we send critical but there isn't big memory pressure, maybe critical handler would kill some process and the result is that killing another process unnecessary. That's really thing we should avoid. If we send low but there is a big memory pressure, at least, userland could be notified and it has a chance to release small memory, which will help to exit current process so that it could prevent OOM kill and killing another process unnecessary. If we send low but there isn't big memory pressure, totally, we will save a process. > > The THP case made sense because nr_scanned is in LRU elements units > while nr_reclaimed is in page units which are different so nr_reclaim > might be higher than nr_scanned (so nr_taken would be more approapriate > for vmpressure). In case of THP, 512 page is equal to vmpressure_win so if we change nr_scanned with nr_taken, it could easily make vmpressure notifier level critical even if VM encounter a recent referenced THP page from LRU tail so I'd like to ignore THP page effect in vmpressure level calculation. > > > Signed-off-by: Hyunhee Kim > > Signed-off-by: Kyungmin Park > > --- > > mm/vmpressure.c | 8 ++++++++ > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+) > > > > diff --git a/mm/vmpressure.c b/mm/vmpressure.c > > index 736a601..8c60cad 100644 > > --- a/mm/vmpressure.c > > +++ b/mm/vmpressure.c > > @@ -119,6 +119,14 @@ static enum vmpressure_levels vmpressure_calc_level(unsigned long scanned, > > unsigned long pressure; > > > > /* > > + * This could happen, in such a case, when reclaiming ends by fatal > > + * signal in shrink_inactive_list(). In this case, return > > + * VMPRESSURE_LOW not to have userland miss reclaim activity. > > + */ > > + if (reclaimed > scanned) > > + return VMPRESSURE_LOW; > > + > > + /* > > * We calculate the ratio (in percents) of how many pages were > > * scanned vs. reclaimed in a given time frame (window). Note that > > * time is in VM reclaimer's "ticks", i.e. number of pages > > -- > > 1.7.9.5 > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in > > the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, > > see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . > > Don't email: email@kvack.org > > -- > Michal Hocko > SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org