From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932821Ab3GPPKJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:10:09 -0400 Received: from smtp.outflux.net ([198.145.64.163]:52587 "EHLO smtp.outflux.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932619Ab3GPPKG (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:10:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:09:40 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Sarah Sharp , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Steven Rostedt , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review Message-ID: <20130716150940.GP17379@outflux.net> References: <20130715174659.GC15531@xanatos> <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Outflux X-HELO: www.outflux.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:30:45PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Sarah Sharp > wrote: > > I should not have to ask for professional behavior on the mailing lists. > > Professional behavior should be the default. > > So, what does "professional" mean? A professional is paid for his work, an > amateur isn't. But this doesn't say anything about code quality, maintainer > responsiveness, etc. > Does it imply behavior that (hopefully) keeps getting you paid? I think we're getting hung up on this specific phrase. I've interpreted this issue with lkml communication as a need to avoid bullying. I think "no bullying", while still up for heavy interpretation, is better to focus on than "being professional". -Kees -- Kees Cook @outflux.net