From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] expert_mode: Add a new configuration option for expert users. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <20130717171725.GB30248@phenom.dumpdata.com> References: <1373652532-24166-1-git-send-email-konrad.wilk@oracle.com> <1373652532-24166-3-git-send-email-konrad.wilk@oracle.com> <1373965455.4663.10.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <20966.30808.647898.994541@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20966.30808.647898.994541@mariner.uk.xensource.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Ian Jackson Cc: george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Ian Campbell List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:56:24AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ian Campbell writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/2] expert_mode: Add a new configuration option for expert users."): > > On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 14:08 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > This could also be called 'seatbelt' option. > > > > > > libxl has a variety of checks where it will fail out an operation > > > unless the user has provided an --force (or --ignore) parameter. > > > Currently one such check is for the 'vcpu-set' command which > > > will error out if the count of virtual cpus is greater than the > > > physical cpus. This parameter will ignore such checks and allow > > > the user to do the operations without the need for override flags. > > > > Does this overlap somewhat with various commands which individually > > take a -f(orce) option? > > Clearly it should disable all of those -f's too. > > > > +=item B > > > + > > > +Do not act on host performed checks that might lead to performance > > > +degradations. Currently checks are made for following operations: > > > + - C - if the number of VCPUs set for a guest is higher than the > > > + physical count the operation will error out. > > I don't think this is a very coherent specification. Surely it should > override "all -f options" or something similar. Sure, I hadn't looked at the other ones. > > I still don't see why you would want such a thing. We discussed it during Xen 4.3 release that certain changes, like this one are inconsistent (for example you can launch an guest with more vCPUs than pCPU, but you if you lower the amount of vCPUs you can't increase it until you use -f flag). But you could consider such inconsistent behavior to be a failsafe mechanism so that the user does not do something silly. But if they are an expert... well