From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934378Ab3GQXTq (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:19:46 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com ([209.85.192.180]:52073 "EHLO mail-pd0-f180.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755164Ab3GQXTb (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:19:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:19:34 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Randy Dunlap , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Stefano Stabellini , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Felipe Contreras , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Willy Tarreau , stable , Chris Ball , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Message-ID: <20130717231934.GC2120@roeck-us.net> References: <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E59F79.1040903@zytor.com> <20130717144043.GA16513@xanatos> <20130717220258.GA990@roeck-us.net> <51E71F73.9050204@infradead.org> <20130717230831.GH4161@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130717230831.GH4161@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 04:08:31PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:49:23PM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > On 07/17/13 15:02, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:40:43AM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > > > > > [ ... ] > > >> > > >> The result: 75% of their developers are women. If you give a flying > > >> fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source > > > > > > The f word is considered highly offensive in some cultures. Granted its use is > > > now far more spread than it used to be, but it seems interesting to me that you > > > of all people use a word which I personally would never use at all, much less > > > in front of a woman. Sounds like a contradiction to me, especially when you use > > > it while arguing for a more civil discussion. > > > > > > Do you think you need to use that word to make a point ? If so, why do you want > > > to take that right away from others ? > > > > Thank you for your comment. (seriously) > > > > and Dave Miller's as well. > > The USA social conventions have changed quite significantly over the past > 50 years, haven't they? But that is OK, the younger people on this list > will likely have the opportunity to experience far greater changes over > the next 50 years, especially given increasing fractions of people's > life experiences being publicly recorded. It would be interesting to > see how they react, but I probably won't be around to witness it. ;-) > My kids use the word all the time, and look at me with an odd face if I point out that it is not a nice word to use (for me). Several people I know and respect seem to be unable to say a sentence without using it. So, yes, I am aware that times are changing, and that my cultural context is different than that of the culture I am living in. But that isn't the point here. Guenter