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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, seth.forshee@canonical.com,
	joeyli.kernel@gmail.com, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Backlight control only in the kernel?
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 09:44:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130807074405.GA18272@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370818899-8595-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 07:01:36PM -0400, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Windows 8 introduced new policy for backlight control by pushing it out to
> graphics drivers. This appears to have coincided with a range of vendors
> adding Windows 8 checks to their backlight control code which trigger either
> awkward behaviour (Lenovo) or complete brokenness (some Dells). The simplest
> thing to do would be to just disable ACPI backlight control entirely if the
> firmware indicates Windows 8 support, but it's entirely possible that
> individual graphics drivers might still make use of the ACPI functionality in
> preference to native control.

Maybe tangential, so Aaron and I were wondering on
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60680 whether it would make
sense to handle the backlight control strictly in the kernel, without
going to userspace and back?

Background is that on my x230, I needed to connect the
Fn-Fx backlight hotkey presses to a script to write to
/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness because Fluxbox doesn't
do that (and maybe doesn't have to).

So, without presuming any ACPI or backlight knowledge, can we make the
backlight control work only in the kernel by connecting the hotkey
presses to some backlight controlling interface which backlight-capable
devices implement so that it works regardless of userspace environment?
Even if the machine is not running X?

Hmmm.

Thanks.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-07  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 23:01 [PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Matthew Garrett
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] acpi: video: add function to support unregister backlight interface Matthew Garrett
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest OS version requested via _OSI Matthew Garrett
2013-06-17 22:31   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-17 22:37     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-17 22:37       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-18  0:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-25 23:23         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-02 13:56           ` [PATCH 0/2] Expose OSI version Aaron Lu
2013-07-02 13:59             ` [PATCH 1/2] ACPICA: expose " Aaron Lu
2013-07-02 14:01             ` [PATCH 2/2] ACPI / OSL: add a wrapper function to return " Aaron Lu
2013-07-03 21:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-04  1:24                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-05 19:52                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-09 23:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] i915: Don't provide ACPI backlight interface if firmware expects Windows 8 Matthew Garrett
2013-06-10  7:40   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-10  9:22   ` joeyli
2013-06-10 14:09   ` Alex Deucher
2013-06-14  6:47   ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-14 17:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-14 17:29       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15  1:26       ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15  1:38         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15  1:38           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15  4:14           ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15  4:14             ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15  4:19             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 12:29               ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15 12:29                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-06-15 15:16                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 18:29                   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-15 18:44                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-15 20:27                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-15 20:35                       ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-05 12:20   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 20:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 21:40       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-05 22:23         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-06  5:45           ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-06 13:33             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-07 13:19               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-07 13:19                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-08  8:00                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-13  0:46                   ` [Update][PATCH] ACPI / video / i915: Remove ACPI backlight " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-15  2:36                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-15 11:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16  3:24                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-07-16 11:54                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-15 13:06                     ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-15 13:06                       ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-15 23:53                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16  7:45                         ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16  7:45                           ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16 13:32                     ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16 13:32                       ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-16 17:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-16 17:08                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-16 22:01                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-17  5:16                           ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-17  5:16                             ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-17 11:38                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-17 12:03                               ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-17 12:03                                 ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-06-10 11:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-06-10 13:48   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-10 13:48     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-11 13:08 ` Seth Forshee
2013-06-22 21:46 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 16:08   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 16:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-25 16:13       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 20:43     ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 20:43       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 20:54       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:10         ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:14           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:30             ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:33               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:33                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:46                 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-06-25 21:49                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-25 21:49                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-17 15:51   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-07-17 19:57     ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-07-18  0:16 ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPICA: expose OSI version Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18  5:38     ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18  5:38       ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18  0:21   ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPI / video: Always call acpi_video_init_brightness() on init Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-18  5:40     ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18  5:40       ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-18  0:22   ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI / video / i915: No ACPI backlight if firmware expects Windows 8 Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-20 13:16   ` [Update][PATCH 0/3] Fix backlight issues on some Windows 8 systems Felipe Contreras
2013-07-26 13:24     ` Jani Nikula
2013-07-29 18:01       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-07-30  5:03         ` Jani Nikula
2013-07-31  0:01   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-31  0:01     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31  0:01       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31  6:48     ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-31  6:48       ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-31  9:08     ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-07  7:44 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2013-08-07  9:03   ` Backlight control only in the kernel? Aaron Lu
2013-08-07 10:34     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-07 10:36   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-07 10:36     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-07 11:04     ` Borislav Petkov

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