From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756221Ab3JHQKz (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:10:55 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:33542 "EHLO mail-ea0-f172.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756188Ab3JHQKt (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:10:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:11:35 +0200 From: Miklos Szeredi To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Al Viro , Linux-Fsdevel , Kernel Mailing List , Rob Landley , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/3] vfs: Allow rmdir to remove mounts in all but the current mount namespace Message-ID: <20131008161135.GK14242@tucsk.piliscsaba.szeredi.hu> References: <8761v7h2pt.fsf@tw-ebiederman.twitter.com> <87li281wx6.fsf_-_@xmission.com> <87a9ioo37a.fsf_-_@xmission.com> <20131007043919.GB10284@mail.hallyn.com> <87vc191sf2.fsf@xmission.com> <87d2ngyb02.fsf@xmission.com> <20131008160601.GJ14242@tucsk.piliscsaba.szeredi.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 09:06:29AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > I think the risks of changing behavior outweigh the benefits. How many > > times did you have to remove or rename a mounted file or directory? It's > > very rarely needed. > > I do this every time I reinstall a system while running that system. > Admittedly, mount --move works, but that's a really unpleasant > interface. > > When rename2 gets added, there could be a flag RENAME_MOVE_MOUNT to opt in. Good point. Opting in would be the safest for both unlinkat() and renameat2(). Thanks, Miklos