From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753473AbaAVWvh (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:51:37 -0500 Received: from gw-1.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.217]:45812 "EHLO pandora.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752985AbaAVWvf (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:51:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:51:27 +0000 From: Russell King - ARM Linux To: Jean-Francois Moine Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Dave Airlie , Rob Clark , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 17/24] drm/i2c: tda998x: get a better status of the connection Message-ID: <20140122225127.GN15937@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20140119195844.202f021b@armhf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140119195844.202f021b@armhf> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 07:58:44PM +0100, Jean-Francois Moine wrote: > This patch refines the connection status testing both bits RXSENS and > HPD of the CEC register giving the connection level. Can you explain why this is necessary? I believe this is not necessary for the following reason: HDMI cables are required to mate in a certain order: - First to mate is the shell. - Second are all pins with the exception of the +5V line. - Third is the +5V line. Sinks are not permitted to assert the HPD line until the EDID memory is ready to be read, and +5V is indicated from the source. Hence, HPD will not be asserted until the connector is fully mated, and there are receivers available on the line. This doesn't indicate whether the sink is powered and able to display a picture - it merely means that the sink is present and valid EDID is available to be read. That's all that we really need here. -- FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: 5.8Mbps down 500kbps up. Estimation in database were 13.1 to 19Mbit for a good line, about 7.5+ for a bad. Estimate before purchase was "up to 13.2Mbit". From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:51:27 +0000 Subject: [PATCH v3 17/24] drm/i2c: tda998x: get a better status of the connection In-Reply-To: <20140119195844.202f021b@armhf> References: <20140119195844.202f021b@armhf> Message-ID: <20140122225127.GN15937@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 07:58:44PM +0100, Jean-Francois Moine wrote: > This patch refines the connection status testing both bits RXSENS and > HPD of the CEC register giving the connection level. Can you explain why this is necessary? I believe this is not necessary for the following reason: HDMI cables are required to mate in a certain order: - First to mate is the shell. - Second are all pins with the exception of the +5V line. - Third is the +5V line. Sinks are not permitted to assert the HPD line until the EDID memory is ready to be read, and +5V is indicated from the source. Hence, HPD will not be asserted until the connector is fully mated, and there are receivers available on the line. This doesn't indicate whether the sink is powered and able to display a picture - it merely means that the sink is present and valid EDID is available to be read. That's all that we really need here. -- FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: 5.8Mbps down 500kbps up. Estimation in database were 13.1 to 19Mbit for a good line, about 7.5+ for a bad. Estimate before purchase was "up to 13.2Mbit".