From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Herrmann Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group notifier block Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20140123195718.GC26399@alberich> References: <1389876263-25759-1-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann@calxeda.com> <1389876263-25759-3-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann@calxeda.com> <20140120222814.GI3471@alberich> <20140122122550.GA14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <20140122134028.GB14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <20140122153352.GE14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <3d0a888e122f490ba6bbc80b1aaa977c@BL2PR03MB468.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3d0a888e122f490ba6bbc80b1aaa977c-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iommu-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org Errors-To: iommu-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org To: Varun Sethi Cc: Andreas Herrmann , "iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org" , Will Deacon , "linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org" List-Id: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 07:07:40PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Will Deacon [mailto:will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:04 PM > > To: Sethi Varun-B16395 > > Cc: Andreas Herrmann; iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org; linux-arm- > > kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; Andreas Herrmann > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group > > notifier block > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:54:11PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote: > > > > > > Ok, so are you suggesting that we perform the isolation mapping > > > > > > in arm_smmu_add_device and drop the notifier altogether? > > > > > I think that should be fine, until we want to delay mapping > > > > > creation till driver bind time. > > > > > > > > Is there a hard dependency on that? > > > > > > > Not sure, may be Andreas can answer that. > > > > Ok. Andreas? I would have thought doing this *earlier* shouldn't be a > > problem (the DMA ops must be swizzled before the driver is probed). > > > > > > > But the "isolate device" property should dictate iommu group > > creation. > > > > > > > > The reason we added automatic group creation (per-device) is for > > > > VFIO, which expects all devices to be in a group regardless of the > > > > device isolation configuration. > > > > > > > IIUC, with the "isolate devices" property we ensure that there would > > > be independent SMR and S2CR per device. Is that correct? > > > > Yes, as part of giving them independent sets of page tables. Initially > > these tables don't have any valid mappings, but the dma-mapping API will > > populate them in response to dma_map_*/dma_alloc/etc. > > > > Not sure what this has to do with us putting devices into their own > > groups... > [Sethi Varun-B16395] Devices in an iommu group would share the dma > mapping, so shouldn't they be sharing the SMR and context registers? I aggree with the context but SMRs won't be shared. I think you just can say that a certain subset of the available SMRs will be used to map all devices in an iommu group to the same context. Depending on what streamIDs each device has you might have to use separate SMRs for each device to map it to the same context. > In case of the "isolate devices" property, each device would have > its own SMR and context registers, thus allowing the devices to have > independent mappings and allowing them to fall in separate iommu > groups. I aggree with Varun's view here. (Now that I take iommu groups into consideration.) But my goal with the "isolate devices" thing was twofold: 1. actual make use of SMMU for address translation for all master devices (instead of just bypassing the SMMU) plus 2. put each master into it's own domain to isolate it The latter matches usage of separate iommu groups for devices. If we now use the isolate devices property to just control whether master devices fall into the same or separate iommu groups it seems to me we would need to have another mechanism that triggers the creation of a mapping for a group. What do you think? Andreas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: herrmann.der.user@googlemail.com (Andreas Herrmann) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:57:18 +0100 Subject: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group notifier block In-Reply-To: <3d0a888e122f490ba6bbc80b1aaa977c@BL2PR03MB468.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> References: <1389876263-25759-1-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann@calxeda.com> <1389876263-25759-3-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann@calxeda.com> <20140120222814.GI3471@alberich> <20140122122550.GA14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <20140122134028.GB14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <20140122153352.GE14108@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> <3d0a888e122f490ba6bbc80b1aaa977c@BL2PR03MB468.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <20140123195718.GC26399@alberich> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 07:07:40PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Will Deacon [mailto:will.deacon at arm.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:04 PM > > To: Sethi Varun-B16395 > > Cc: Andreas Herrmann; iommu at lists.linux-foundation.org; linux-arm- > > kernel at lists.infradead.org; Andreas Herrmann > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group > > notifier block > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:54:11PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote: > > > > > > Ok, so are you suggesting that we perform the isolation mapping > > > > > > in arm_smmu_add_device and drop the notifier altogether? > > > > > I think that should be fine, until we want to delay mapping > > > > > creation till driver bind time. > > > > > > > > Is there a hard dependency on that? > > > > > > > Not sure, may be Andreas can answer that. > > > > Ok. Andreas? I would have thought doing this *earlier* shouldn't be a > > problem (the DMA ops must be swizzled before the driver is probed). > > > > > > > But the "isolate device" property should dictate iommu group > > creation. > > > > > > > > The reason we added automatic group creation (per-device) is for > > > > VFIO, which expects all devices to be in a group regardless of the > > > > device isolation configuration. > > > > > > > IIUC, with the "isolate devices" property we ensure that there would > > > be independent SMR and S2CR per device. Is that correct? > > > > Yes, as part of giving them independent sets of page tables. Initially > > these tables don't have any valid mappings, but the dma-mapping API will > > populate them in response to dma_map_*/dma_alloc/etc. > > > > Not sure what this has to do with us putting devices into their own > > groups... > [Sethi Varun-B16395] Devices in an iommu group would share the dma > mapping, so shouldn't they be sharing the SMR and context registers? I aggree with the context but SMRs won't be shared. I think you just can say that a certain subset of the available SMRs will be used to map all devices in an iommu group to the same context. Depending on what streamIDs each device has you might have to use separate SMRs for each device to map it to the same context. > In case of the "isolate devices" property, each device would have > its own SMR and context registers, thus allowing the devices to have > independent mappings and allowing them to fall in separate iommu > groups. I aggree with Varun's view here. (Now that I take iommu groups into consideration.) But my goal with the "isolate devices" thing was twofold: 1. actual make use of SMMU for address translation for all master devices (instead of just bypassing the SMMU) plus 2. put each master into it's own domain to isolate it The latter matches usage of separate iommu groups for devices. If we now use the isolate devices property to just control whether master devices fall into the same or separate iommu groups it seems to me we would need to have another mechanism that triggers the creation of a mapping for a group. What do you think? Andreas