From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark Brown Subject: Re: Audio mini conference 2014? Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:47:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20140826104722.GJ17528@sirena.org.uk> References: <20140813165517.GB17528@sirena.org.uk> <20140817231021.GQ14537@sirena.org.uk> <53F1B892.5080109@metafoo.de> <53F1BA5B.6070400@zonque.org> <20140826084220.GA17528@sirena.org.uk> <20140826101953.GI17528@sirena.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4032345555138255257==" Return-path: Received: from mezzanine.sirena.org.uk (mezzanine.sirena.org.uk [106.187.55.193]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98BE26514C for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:47:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: Takashi Iwai Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl_Kr=E4hemann?= , "Austin, Brian" , Lars-Peter Clausen , Vinod Koul , Tanu Kaskinen , "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" , Paul Handrigan , Daniel Mack , Arun Raghavan , Dylan Reid , David Henningsson , "Alexander E. Patrakov" List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org --===============4032345555138255257== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BqONIA9TJNoFXW05" Content-Disposition: inline --BqONIA9TJNoFXW05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:28:24PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > It was because they aren't automatically probeable without loading the > > driver and taking a look at the hardware - if a distro wants to use them > > it ends up having to load and unload the module. > So he was grumbling about ISA sound card hardware design? Then I > understand and agree well. Though, the fact that it isn't > discoverable is same on many old embedded device drivers. The > difference is whether it's used only in a custom kernel or in a > generic kernel by distros. Any embedded devices doing that are just broken - for embedded things you do always have an enumeration of the devices even if it happens to come from a data table in software. For ISA there's no option. --BqONIA9TJNoFXW05 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT/GW2AAoJELSic+t+oim9VasP/0cR29dUlE2gANHuYpMzLtnB ebJFO8LNtKgPV+GicperJX+H7WHlXBVenAXh+vvB0JoehKZnAHmGEimOBp67JLP0 ZmDmuL48Zqip+XJPpX9yANQExDQXE0+tbb0ICVr0wo2emqSJEY8cXDa1ihBs8XY/ hH1HH40PjqKCbANnwxuUGBNfqcCc2WnVfhghKe3PriQn5+2VCfxAxkQ7A2aZ1T4A usL7U75nGcpoXGkc1c+rfDzaaIo9cAvNyuQGBVC6fUI1qAOjRNhGvED4bU+GdpSu 9/dsG1db2N7dIeMfRKp+XfohXfJgd8QNiI4yLEiJMEBGEv+iWhLw/pRQILwm/ifI S/wXU5Cz/RO5azwNfOOrAqHBbG6APq2cekDsY5yrkpfFVzwKlZfwsnRM53Hf0BTq fqoStK1IrhmnBTYJqJevQPk1/rSXdyrsMrgJ/BRcng6OeiC1qV9x6MU6DuVOSezf 8f8AwViAZ6KZrzDxKxg0MKk4E6hdFwrSAyqqSkCxInPAAfU+MbsY2VaNLp4Wz3AB e/U0O3FOEB2J2ZizoEz6OdNS46bvpRg7Ymt2pIOhpkePiHvzK2bmQmR/dyDCkYx2 zcnl3DEF1srGftC2X9rBePE+Pa3S45zYSMaXnDkMAMccOl/l+lOOIrKFl8F+xhmv R4o24sHsi/Cdu0uwHp5N =VGdZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BqONIA9TJNoFXW05-- --===============4032345555138255257== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============4032345555138255257==--