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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eliezer Tamir <eliezer.tamir@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140902102410.GX27892@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5405419E.7020103@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:03:42PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On 09/01/2014 06:19 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > OK I suppose that more or less makes sense, the contextual behaviour is
> > of course tedious in that it makes behaviour less predictable. The
> > 'other' tasks might not want to generate data and you then destroy
> > throughput by not spinning.
> 
> The patch try to make sure:
> - the the performance of busy read was not worse than it was disabled in
> any cases.
> - the performance improvement of a single socket was not achieved by
> sacrificing the total performance (all other processes) of the system
>  
> If 'other' tasks are also CPU or I/O intensive jobs, we switch to do
> them so the total performance were kept or even increased, and the
> performance of current process were guaranteed not worse than when busy
> read was disabled (or even better since it may still do busy read
> sometimes when it was the only runnable process). If 'other' task are
> not intensive, they just do little work and sleep soon, then the busy
> read can still work in most of the time during the future reads, we may
> still get obvious improvements.

Not entirely true; the select/poll whatever will now block, which means
we need a wakeup, which increases the latency immensely.

> > I'm not entirely sure I see how its all supposed to work though; the
> > various poll functions call sk_busy_poll() and do_select() also loops.
> >
> > The patch only kills the sk_busy_poll() loop, but then do_select() will
> > still loop and not sleep, so how is this helping?
> 
> Yes, the patch only help for processes who did a blocking reads (busy
> read). For select(), maybe we can do the same thing but need more test
> and thoughts.

What's the blocking read callgraph, how so we end up in sk_busy_poll() there?

But that's another reason the patch is wrong.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21  8:05 [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:05 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: exit busy loop when another process is runnable Jason Wang
2014-08-21  8:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22  2:53     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 19:03   ` Amos Kong
2014-08-22  5:01   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-22  7:29     ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22  7:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-29  3:08         ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:39           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:15               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  7:37                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  8:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  6:49                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  7:33                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  9:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03  7:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-04  6:51                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-04  8:25                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-22  7:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  9:08       ` Jason Wang
2014-08-22 14:16         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-25  2:54           ` Jason Wang
2014-08-25 13:16           ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-08-26  7:16             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-01  6:55               ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  3:35                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:03                   ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-02  6:31                     ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  6:21                       ` Eliezer Tamir
2014-09-03  6:59                         ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14  0:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03  8:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 16:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13  7:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-13 13:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-13 13:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14  0:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01  9:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 10:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  4:03             ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02 10:24               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-09-03  6:58                 ` Jason Wang
2014-09-03  9:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 10:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02  3:38           ` Jason Wang
2014-09-02  6:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02  7:19               ` Jason Wang
2014-08-21 13:52 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sched: introduce nr_running_this_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2014-08-22  7:27   ` Jason Wang

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