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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Michael Kerrisk-manpages <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8.1] fanotify: enable close-on-exec on events' fd when requested in fanotify_init()
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:46:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141002124652.c877efeb35d07064e520a702@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002104410.GB19748@quack.suse.cz>

On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:44:10 +0200 Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:

> On Wed 01-10-14 15:36:21, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:49:15 +0200 Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > According to commit 80af258867648 ('fanotify: groups can specify
> > > their f_flags for new fd'), file descriptors created as part of
> > > file access notification events inherit flags from the
> > > event_f_flags argument passed to syscall fanotify_init(2).
> > > 
> > > So while it is legal for userspace to call fanotify_init() with
> > > O_CLOEXEC as part of its second argument, O_CLOEXEC is currently
> > > silently ignored.
> > > 
> > > Indeed event_f_flags are only given to dentry_open(), which only
> > > seems to care about O_ACCMODE and O_PATH in do_dentry_open(),
> > > O_DIRECT in open_check_o_direct() and O_LARGEFILE in
> > > generic_file_open().
> > > 
> > > But it seems logical to set close-on-exec flag on the file
> > > descriptor if userspace is allowed to request it with O_CLOEXEC.
> > > 
> > > In fact, according to some lookup on http://codesearch.debian.net/
> > > and various search engine, there's already some userspace code
> > > requesting it:
> > > 
> > > - in systemd's readahead[2]:
> > > 
> > >     fanotify_fd = fanotify_init(FAN_CLOEXEC|FAN_NONBLOCK, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE|O_CLOEXEC|O_NOATIME);
> > > 
> > > - in clsync[3]:
> > > 
> > >     #define FANOTIFY_EVFLAGS (O_LARGEFILE|O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC)
> > > 
> > >     int fanotify_d = fanotify_init(FANOTIFY_FLAGS, FANOTIFY_EVFLAGS);
> > > 
> > > - in examples [4] from "Filesystem monitoring in the Linux
> > >   kernel" article[5] by Aleksander Morgado:
> > > 
> > >     if ((fanotify_fd = fanotify_init (FAN_CLOEXEC,
> > >                                       O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC | O_LARGEFILE)) < 0)
> > 
> > So we have a number of apps which are setting O_CLOEXEC, but it doesn't
> > actually work.  With this change it *will* work, so the behaviour of
> > those apps might change, possibly breaking them?
>   Possibly. OTOH I'd dare to say that most of the apps specifying O_CLOEXEC
> want that behavior and their security may be weakened by the fact that
> O_CLOEXEC is ignored. So we are weighting possible security issues for apps
> doing things right (and Mihai mentioned in this thread that at least he has
> an application which needs O_CLOEXEC working) against possible breakage for
> apps which just randomly set O_CLOEXEC without wanting. So I'm really for
> fixing O_CLOEXEC behavior.

Fair enough, it sounds like the risk is acceptable.

Can we get a new version sent out with all this new info appropriately
changelogged?


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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Guy Briggs <rgb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk-manpages
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8.1] fanotify: enable close-on-exec on events' fd when requested in fanotify_init()
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:46:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141002124652.c877efeb35d07064e520a702@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002104410.GB19748-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:44:10 +0200 Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Wed 01-10-14 15:36:21, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:49:15 +0200 Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > According to commit 80af258867648 ('fanotify: groups can specify
> > > their f_flags for new fd'), file descriptors created as part of
> > > file access notification events inherit flags from the
> > > event_f_flags argument passed to syscall fanotify_init(2).
> > > 
> > > So while it is legal for userspace to call fanotify_init() with
> > > O_CLOEXEC as part of its second argument, O_CLOEXEC is currently
> > > silently ignored.
> > > 
> > > Indeed event_f_flags are only given to dentry_open(), which only
> > > seems to care about O_ACCMODE and O_PATH in do_dentry_open(),
> > > O_DIRECT in open_check_o_direct() and O_LARGEFILE in
> > > generic_file_open().
> > > 
> > > But it seems logical to set close-on-exec flag on the file
> > > descriptor if userspace is allowed to request it with O_CLOEXEC.
> > > 
> > > In fact, according to some lookup on http://codesearch.debian.net/
> > > and various search engine, there's already some userspace code
> > > requesting it:
> > > 
> > > - in systemd's readahead[2]:
> > > 
> > >     fanotify_fd = fanotify_init(FAN_CLOEXEC|FAN_NONBLOCK, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE|O_CLOEXEC|O_NOATIME);
> > > 
> > > - in clsync[3]:
> > > 
> > >     #define FANOTIFY_EVFLAGS (O_LARGEFILE|O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC)
> > > 
> > >     int fanotify_d = fanotify_init(FANOTIFY_FLAGS, FANOTIFY_EVFLAGS);
> > > 
> > > - in examples [4] from "Filesystem monitoring in the Linux
> > >   kernel" article[5] by Aleksander Morgado:
> > > 
> > >     if ((fanotify_fd = fanotify_init (FAN_CLOEXEC,
> > >                                       O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC | O_LARGEFILE)) < 0)
> > 
> > So we have a number of apps which are setting O_CLOEXEC, but it doesn't
> > actually work.  With this change it *will* work, so the behaviour of
> > those apps might change, possibly breaking them?
>   Possibly. OTOH I'd dare to say that most of the apps specifying O_CLOEXEC
> want that behavior and their security may be weakened by the fact that
> O_CLOEXEC is ignored. So we are weighting possible security issues for apps
> doing things right (and Mihai mentioned in this thread that at least he has
> an application which needs O_CLOEXEC working) against possible breakage for
> apps which just randomly set O_CLOEXEC without wanting. So I'm really for
> fixing O_CLOEXEC behavior.

Fair enough, it sounds like the risk is acceptable.

Can we get a new version sent out with all this new info appropriately
changelogged?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-02 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24 13:11 [PATCHv8 0/6] Getting rid of get_unused_fd() / enable close-on-exec Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 1/6] fanotify: enable close-on-exec on events' fd when requested in fanotify_init() Yann Droneaud
2014-09-25 20:57   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2014-09-25 20:57     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2014-09-26  8:58     ` Yann Droneaud
2014-09-27  7:26       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2014-09-29  8:49         ` [PATCHv8.1] " Yann Droneaud
2014-09-29 11:50           ` Jan Kara
2014-10-01 22:36           ` Andrew Morton
2014-10-01 22:36             ` Andrew Morton
2014-10-02  6:20             ` Yann Droneaud
2014-10-02  6:50               ` Mihai Donțu
2014-10-02  7:52               ` [PATCH] fanotify: add a flag to allow setting O_CLOEXEC on event fd Yann Droneaud
2014-10-02  9:13                 ` Pádraig Brady
2014-10-02  9:13                   ` Pádraig Brady
2014-10-02  9:13                   ` Pádraig Brady
2014-10-02 11:55                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-10-02 14:44                   ` Yann Droneaud
2014-10-02 14:44                     ` Yann Droneaud
2014-10-02 10:44             ` [PATCHv8.1] fanotify: enable close-on-exec on events' fd when requested in fanotify_init() Jan Kara
2014-10-02 10:44               ` Jan Kara
2014-10-02 19:46               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-10-02 19:46                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-10-03  8:39                 ` [PATCHv8.2] " Yann Droneaud
2014-10-03  8:39                   ` Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 2/6] ia64: trivial: replace get_unused_fd() by get_unused_fd_flags(0) Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 3/6] ppc/cell: " Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11   ` Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 4/6] binfmt_misc: " Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 5/6] file: " Yann Droneaud
2014-09-24 13:11 ` [PATCHv8 6/6] file: remove get_unused_fd() macro Yann Droneaud

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