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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, ilya.dryomov@inktank.com,
	umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] wait: Provide infrastructure to deal with nested blocking
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 23:21:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141002212108.GA12446@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002073739.GF2843@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 10/02, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:02:21PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/24, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > +int woken_wake_function(wait_queue_t *wait, unsigned mode, int sync, void *key)
> > > +{
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Although this function is called under waitqueue lock, LOCK
> > > +	 * doesn't imply write barrier and the users expects write
> > > +	 * barrier semantics on wakeup functions.  The following
> > > +	 * smp_wmb() is equivalent to smp_wmb() in try_to_wake_up()
> > > +	 * and is paired with set_mb() in wait_woken().
> > > +	 */
> > > +	smp_wmb(); /* C */
> > > +	wait->flags |= WQ_FLAG_WOKEN;
> >
> > Perhaps it is just me, but I was a bit confused by the comment above wmb().
> > Afaics, it is not that "users expects write barrier semantics", just we
> > need to ensure that
> >
> > 	CONDITION = true;
> > 	wait->flags |= WQ_FLAG_WOKEN;
> >
> > can't be reordered (and this differs from smp_wmb() in try_to_wake_up()).
> > Otherwise we can obviously race with
> >
> > 	// wait_woken() -> set_mb()
> > 	wait->flags &= ~WQ_FLAG_WOKEN;
> > 	mb();
> >
> > 	if (CONDITION)
> > 		break;
> >
>
> Yes, that comment could be clearer. It is however, to me, the 'same' as
> a regular wakeup in that we need to separate whatever state changes
> before the wakeup (CONDITION=true typically) from whatever writes are
> required to affect the wakeup (->state=TASK_RUNNING typically,

Not really, ttwu() needs to serialize CONDITION=true and the reading of
task->state. And for the waiter its state is write only, it doesn't need
to check it.

While in this case we need to separate CONDITION and WQ_FLAG_WOKEN, and
the waiter needs to check them in the right order.

But please forget, the code looks clear with or without the comment, and
"paired with set_mb() in wait_woken()" should explain the intent anyway.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-02 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24  8:18 [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 01/11] locking/mutex: Dont assume TASK_RUNNING Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] locking/mutex: Don't " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 02/11] wait: Provide infrastructure to deal with nested blocking Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 21:02   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-02  7:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 21:21       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/wait: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 03/11] wait: Add might_sleep() Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:09   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/wait: Add might_sleep() checks tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 04/11] exit: Deal with nested sleeps Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 05/11] inotify: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 06/11] tty: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:10   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 07/11] smp: Correctly deal " Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 08/11] module: Fix nested sleep Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 22:18   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-30 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, modules: Fix nested sleep in add_unformed_module() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 09/11] net: Clean up sk_wait_event() vs might_sleep() Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, net: Clean up sk_wait_event() vs. might_sleep() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 10/11] sched: Debug nested sleeps Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 22:13   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-30 13:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-30 21:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-01 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-01 18:35           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-02  9:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 21:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28 11:11   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 11/11] sched: Exclude cond_resched() from nested sleep test Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 11:12   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  8:30 ` [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25  9:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  9:10     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25  9:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-25  9:56       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-25 13:59         ` BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context at drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c:370 Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26  6:24           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26  7:54             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-26 14:10               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-26 22:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-27  6:14                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-27 19:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-02 10:22       ` [PATCH 00/11] nested sleeps, fixes and debug infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-02 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-27 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28  0:07             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28  8:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29  0:00                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-29  9:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 11:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 11:36                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-29 14:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-04 16:08         ` [tip:sched/core] audit, sched/wait: Fixup kauditd_thread() wait loop tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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