Debian Bug#770122: patch as workaround/solution

* Debian Bug#770122: patch as workaround/solution
@ 2014-11-23 17:16 Elimar Riesebieter
  2014-11-23 21:19 ` Elimar Riesebieter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Elimar Riesebieter @ 2014-11-23 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Teutone, 770122

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Hi,

Iam forwarding this Debian bug to alsa-devel due to a not maintained
BugTracker at alsa project. Could one please have a look at it?

Thanks
Elimar
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Thank you for looking into this so fast!

Okay I disabled the service to get back to the state I was in:

$ sudo systemctl disable alsa-fix.service
Removed
symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/alsa-fix.service.

Btw I did a fast test before that and after resume from hibernate the
workaround doesn't seem to work anymore (only after reboot probably)...
I am still learning; am on Debian since 3 weeks.

then I did a --reinstall of alsa-base/utils & libasound2 for pristine
installation of those 

$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils libasound2

I checked my $home/ folder for hidden files using 
$ls -a 
but there is no .asoundrc file there

I made a collection of screenshots of alsamixer and pulseaudio settings
for you; I hope they can help to resolve the issue. First two
screenshots are xterm output.

As you can see the channels are correctly auto-muted when I switch from
speaker to headphone jack, but there's simply no audio coming out of
that jack. Even pulseaudio shows a sound ping when I test headphone
configuration (last screenshot). I also tried muting and unmuting in
pulseaudio settings and switching to Analog Stereo configuration, no
deal.

I hope I'm able to help you fixing this!

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From: Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de>
To: 770122@bugs.debian.org
Subject: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#770122: Bug#770122: patch as workaround/solution
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:27:06 +0100
Message-ID: <20141120162705.GB3302@galadriel.home.lxtec.de>

* Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-19 13:35 +0100]:

> Thank you for looking into this so fast!
> 
> Okay I disabled the service to get back to the state I was in:
> 
> $ sudo systemctl disable alsa-fix.service
> Removed
> symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/alsa-fix.service.
> 
> Btw I did a fast test before that and after resume from hibernate the
> workaround doesn't seem to work anymore (only after reboot probably)...
> I am still learning; am on Debian since 3 weeks.
> 
> then I did a --reinstall of alsa-base/utils & libasound2 for pristine
> installation of those 
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils libasound2
> 
> 
> I checked my $home/ folder for hidden files using 
> $ls -a 
> but there is no .asoundrc file there
> 
> I made a collection of screenshots of alsamixer and pulseaudio settings
> for you; I hope they can help to resolve the issue. First two
> screenshots are xterm output.
> 
> As you can see the channels are correctly auto-muted when I switch from
> speaker to headphone jack, but there's simply no audio coming out of
> that jack. Even pulseaudio shows a sound ping when I test headphone
> configuration (last screenshot). I also tried muting and unmuting in
> pulseaudio settings and switching to Analog Stereo configuration, no
> deal.

Please try as user:

$ mkdir $HOME/.pulse
$ echo "autospawn=no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf

This prevents pulseaudio to restart when it's down.

To shutdown pulse:
$ pulseaudio -k

Please test sound now.

To restart pulse:
$ pulseaudio -D

Elimar
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On Thu, 2014-11-20 at 17:27 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Please try as user:
> 
> $ mkdir $HOME/.pulse
> $ echo "autospawn=no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf
> 
> This prevents pulseaudio to restart when it's down.
> 
> To shutdown pulse:
> $ pulseaudio -k
> 
> Please test sound now.
> 
> To restart pulse:
> $ pulseaudio -D
> 
> Elimar
> -- 
>   Alles was viel bedacht wird ist bedenklich!;-)
>          Friedrich Nietzsche
> 

Okay I tried this, but no difference to sound test with pulseaudio.
Built in speakers work, headphone jack does not play a single sound,
nothing. Speakers get auto-muted when I plug in my headphones though.
Only difference, I can't use media buttons to control volume when
pulseaudio is turned off (guess that's normal)

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From: Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de>
To: Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com>, 770122@bugs.debian.org
Subject: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#770122: Bug#770122: Bug#770122: patch as workaround/solution
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:57:12 +0100
Message-ID: <20141122115712.GA2653@galadriel.home.lxtec.de>

* Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-21 01:55 +0100]:

> On Thu, 2014-11-20 at 17:27 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > Please try as user:
> > 
> > $ mkdir $HOME/.pulse
> > $ echo "autospawn=no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf
> > 
> > This prevents pulseaudio to restart when it's down.
> > 
> > To shutdown pulse:
> > $ pulseaudio -k
> > 
> > Please test sound now.
> > 
> > To restart pulse:
> > $ pulseaudio -D
> > 
> > Elimar
> > -- 
> >   Alles was viel bedacht wird ist bedenklich!;-)
> >          Friedrich Nietzsche
> > 
> 
> Okay I tried this, but no difference to sound test with pulseaudio.
> Built in speakers work, headphone jack does not play a single sound,
> nothing. Speakers get auto-muted when I plug in my headphones though.

This looks like a driver bug. As I remember you're using linux-3.16.
It's pretty new, though. In sid we have linux-3.17 images which
worth to try. If that not helps I'd forward this bug to the kernel
team with your attention please. To browse the ALSA BTS [0] might be
helpful as well.

> Only difference, I can't use media buttons to control volume when
> pulseaudio is turned off (guess that's normal)

Thats not normal. My thinkpads are working with a straight ALSA. For
me there is no advantage to run pulseaudio. The "media buttons" are
working correct. Same on my powerbook (Yeah, it's PPC arch ;-)).

[0] https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug

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On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 12:57 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-21 01:55 +0100]:
> 
> > On Thu, 2014-11-20 at 17:27 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > > Please try as user:
> > > 
> > > $ mkdir $HOME/.pulse
> > > $ echo "autospawn=no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf
> > > 
> > > This prevents pulseaudio to restart when it's down.
> > > 
> > > To shutdown pulse:
> > > $ pulseaudio -k
> > > 
> > > Please test sound now.
> > > 
> > > To restart pulse:
> > > $ pulseaudio -D
> > > 
> > > Elimar
> > > -- 
> > >   Alles was viel bedacht wird ist bedenklich!;-)
> > >          Friedrich Nietzsche
> > > 
> > 
> > Okay I tried this, but no difference to sound test with pulseaudio.
> > Built in speakers work, headphone jack does not play a single sound,
> > nothing. Speakers get auto-muted when I plug in my headphones though.
> 
> This looks like a driver bug. As I remember you're using linux-3.16.
> It's pretty new, though. In sid we have linux-3.17 images which
> worth to try. If that not helps I'd forward this bug to the kernel
> team with your attention please. To browse the ALSA BTS [0] might be
> helpful as well.

I looked through the changelogs on
http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.17-1~exp1_changelog and http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.17 and could not find any news about audio drivers - plus I read the warning about data loss and experimental state of 3.17, and I'm feeling unsure if it's safe for me to use it, I am not that good at Linux yet... if you say it's relatively safe could you give me a few hints how to do the kernel update safely or point me to the direction where I can read about how to do it, please?

> 
> > Only difference, I can't use media buttons to control volume when
> > pulseaudio is turned off (guess that's normal)
> 
> Thats not normal. My thinkpads are working with a straight ALSA. For
> me there is no advantage to run pulseaudio. The "media buttons" are
> working correct. Same on my powerbook (Yeah, it's PPC arch ;-)).

Hmm. That's strange then... something seems really wrong with this
Macbook ***** :P I recently noticed that I have a slight sound problem
with my speakers, too - in Mac OS + Windows I get decent sound from
right and left built-in speaker; in Debian Jessie I only have the right
speaker working correctly, but the left one is a lot quieter... as if
it's also not working 100% with the driver...

> 
> [0] https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug

I'm unable to open that site - it seems to be down? Even with simple
http:// it just gives me a 404 Error... is it reachable for you?

Teutone

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From: Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de>
To: Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com>, 770122@bugs.debian.org
Subject: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#770122:  Bug#770122:
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:59:07 +0100
Message-ID: <20141122145907.GA2531@galadriel.home.lxtec.de>

* Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-22 15:06 +0100]:

> On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 12:57 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
[...]
> > This looks like a driver bug. As I remember you're using linux-3.16.
> > It's pretty new, though. In sid we have linux-3.17 images which
> > worth to try. If that not helps I'd forward this bug to the kernel
> > team with your attention please. To browse the ALSA BTS [0] might be
> > helpful as well.
> 
> I looked through the changelogs on

> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.17-1~exp1_changelog
> and http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.17 and could not find any
> news about audio drivers - plus I read the warning about data loss
> and experimental state of 3.17, and I'm feeling unsure if it's
> safe for me to use it, I am not that good at Linux yet... if you
> say it's relatively safe could you give me a few hints how to do
> the kernel update safely or point me to the direction where I can
> read about how to do it, please?

Well, linux-3.17 is the stable mainline kernel. It's not
experimental and there are no known bugs about data loss. If you're
not comfortable to try 3.17 I can tell you that this kernel runs
fine. (3.14.25, 3.17.4, 3.18-rc5 here). But I won't force you to use
it. You can otherwise try some Live-Distros (Knoppix, GRML a.o) to
check your soundcard. Those are not running 3.17!

How to install Debian's 3.17:
As root:
# echo "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/unstable main non-free contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
# apt-get update
# apt-get install -t unstable linux-image-3.17-1-amd64

Reboot to load the new kerenl and test sound.

To reverse it:
# rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
# apt-get update
# apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.17-1-amd64

Thats it ;-)

> 
> > 
> > > Only difference, I can't use media buttons to control volume when
> > > pulseaudio is turned off (guess that's normal)
> > 
> > Thats not normal. My thinkpads are working with a straight ALSA. For
> > me there is no advantage to run pulseaudio. The "media buttons" are
> > working correct. Same on my powerbook (Yeah, it's PPC arch ;-)).
> 
> Hmm. That's strange then... something seems really wrong with this
> Macbook ***** :P I recently noticed that I have a slight sound problem
> with my speakers, too - in Mac OS + Windows I get decent sound from
> right and left built-in speaker; in Debian Jessie I only have the right
> speaker working correctly, but the left one is a lot quieter... as if
> it's also not working 100% with the driver...

If there is a hardware bug you can check live distris as mentioned
above. But there we can't help. Success to your hardware is needed,
though....

> 
> > 
> > [0] https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug
> 
> I'm unable to open that site - it seems to be down? Even with simple
> http:// it just gives me a 404 Error... is it reachable for you?

It looks like it is temporarely down :(

Elimar
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On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 15:59 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-22 15:06 +0100]:
> 
> > On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 12:57 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> [...]
> Well, linux-3.17 is the stable mainline kernel. It's not
> experimental and there are no known bugs about data loss. If you're
> not comfortable to try 3.17 I can tell you that this kernel runs
> fine. (3.14.25, 3.17.4, 3.18-rc5 here). But I won't force you to use
> it. You can otherwise try some Live-Distros (Knoppix, GRML a.o) to
> check your soundcard. Those are not running 3.17!
> 
> How to install Debian's 3.17:
> As root:
> # echo "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/unstable main non-free contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get install -t unstable linux-image-3.17-1-amd64
> 
> Reboot to load the new kerenl and test sound.
> 
> To reverse it:
> # rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.17-1-amd64
> 
> Thats it ;-)

Alright, thanks for the fast response and extra terminal help ; ) (had
to switch to experimental debian distro + install kernel-headers as
well)

I am now on 
		uname -r
		3.17-1-amd64

and tested my headphones after rebooting--- no difference. Still silent
as a grave. What's the next step then?

> > Hmm. That's strange then... something seems really wrong with this
> > Macbook ***** :P I recently noticed that I have a slight sound problem
> > with my speakers, too - in Mac OS + Windows I get decent sound from
> > right and left built-in speaker; in Debian Jessie I only have the right
> > speaker working correctly, but the left one is a lot quieter... as if
> > it's also not working 100% with the driver...
> 
> If there is a hardware bug you can check live distris as mentioned
> above. But there we can't help. Success to your hardware is needed,
> though....

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From: Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de>
To: Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com>, 770122@bugs.debian.org
Subject: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#770122: patch as workaround/solution
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:54:20 +0100
Message-ID: <20141123135420.GA2868@galadriel.home.lxtec.de>

* Teutone <whiteteutone@gmail.com> [2014-11-22 21:13 +0100]:

> On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 15:59 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

[...]

> > As root:
> > # echo "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/unstable main non-free contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
> > # apt-get update
> > # apt-get install -t unstable linux-image-3.17-1-amd64
> > 
> > Reboot to load the new kerenl and test sound.
> > 
> > To reverse it:
> > # rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teutone.list
> > # apt-get update
> > # apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.17-1-amd64
> > 
> > Thats it ;-)
> 
> Alright, thanks for the fast response and extra terminal help ; ) (had
> to switch to experimental debian distro + install kernel-headers as
> well)
> 
> 
> I am now on 
> 		uname -r
> 		3.17-1-amd64
> 
> and tested my headphones after rebooting--- no difference. Still silent
> as a grave. What's the next step then?

Forwarding this bug to the Debian kernel team and upstream.

Please be careful by updates now. First remove your source.list.d
entries for experimental, apr-get remove purge 3.17 and and run a
"apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade".

> 
> > > Hmm. That's strange then... something seems really wrong with this
> > > Macbook ***** :P I recently noticed that I have a slight sound problem
> > > with my speakers, too - in Mac OS + Windows I get decent sound from
> > > right and left built-in speaker; in Debian Jessie I only have the right
> > > speaker working correctly, but the left one is a lot quieter... as if
> > > it's also not working 100% with the driver...
> > 
> > If there is a hardware bug you can check live distris as mentioned
> > above. But there we can't help. Success to your hardware is needed,
> > though....

Before forwarding the bug we must be sure your hardware works correct.
Could you test another headpone and/or speaker set meanwhile?

Elimar
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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:57:08 +0000
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On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 14:54 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Please be careful by updates now. First remove your source.list.d
> entries for experimental, apr-get remove purge 3.17 and and run a
> "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade".

Okay, I followed the steps to revert to 3.16-4 and am back on
3.16.0-4-amd64 now.

> > > > Hmm. That's strange then... something seems really wrong with this
> > > > Macbook ***** :P I recently noticed that I have a slight sound problem
> > > > with my speakers, too - in Mac OS + Windows I get decent sound from
> > > > right and left built-in speaker; in Debian Jessie I only have the right
> > > > speaker working correctly, but the left one is a lot quieter... as if
> > > > it's also not working 100% with the driver...
> > > 
> > > If there is a hardware bug you can check live distris as mentioned
> > > above. But there we can't help. Success to your hardware is needed,
> > > though....
> 
> Before forwarding the bug we must be sure your hardware works correct.
> Could you test another headpone and/or speaker set meanwhile?

My hardware is absolutely fine; I boot into three different OS on my
Macbook: Debian Jessie, Windows & Mac OS - on Windows & Mac OS I have no
problems with neither the built-in speakers of the Macbook nor my good
old headphones. Forwarding this should be allright. Thank you for your
help until now!

Teutone

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