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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	davem@davemloft.net, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	ying.xue@windriver.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] netlink: Lock out table resizes while dumping Netlink sockets
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:00:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150121100031.GL3012@acer.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150121095634.GO20315@casper.infradead.org>

On 21.01, Thomas Graf wrote:
> On 01/21/15 at 08:14pm, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 04:15:55PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > I failed to address the security aspect of this approach.  Obviously
> > > this can only work if the only entites doing the walk are trusted.
> > > Which means that the vast majority (if not all) hash table users
> > > would be excluded, in particular, netlink.
> > 
> > OK maybe we can get around this.  So we will postpone the resize
> > or rehash when a walk is in place, however, when we hit a hard
> > limit, i.e., when insert would otherwise fail, then we do the
> > rehash regardless of any outstanding walks.  The walks will just
> > behave erratically or we could force them to start from scratch
> > again.
> 
> Exactly. I think we also need a timer to abort walks because if
> only a single walker is allowed, an attacker could start a walk and
> not complete it to block out everybody else.

Restarting them automatically sounds reasonable, duplicate entries have
always been possible. That makes me think, we could have userspace
indicate support for NLM_F_DUMP_INTR and otherwise always restart.
That would solve the problem very easily.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-21 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-20 13:20 [PATCH 0/3 net-next] rhashtable: Notify on resize to allow signaling interrupted dumps Thomas Graf
2015-01-20 13:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] rhashtable: Provide notifier for deferred resizes Thomas Graf
2015-01-20 13:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] netlink: Mark dumps as inconsistent which have been interrupted by a resize Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  8:13   ` Ying Xue
2015-01-21 12:17     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22  8:49       ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-22  8:56         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-22  9:22           ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-22 10:07             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-25 23:20         ` [PATCH 0/2] rhashtable: Add walk iterator primitives and use them in netlink Herbert Xu
2015-01-25 23:21           ` [PATCH 1/2] rhashtable: Introduce rhashtable_walk_* Herbert Xu
2015-01-26  8:20             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-26 22:21               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-26 10:09             ` David Laight
2015-01-26 22:23               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-26 22:36                 ` David Miller
2015-01-26 22:42                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-26 23:31                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27  9:45                       ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-27  9:54                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 10:15                           ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-27 10:24                             ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 11:16                               ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-27 11:23                                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 11:40                                   ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-27 20:39                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 22:10                                       ` David Miller
2015-01-27 23:16                                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 13:09                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-27 20:36                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-28 19:07                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-30  5:58                                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-30  8:10                                           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-27 10:09                 ` David Laight
2015-01-27 10:12                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-25 23:21           ` [PATCH 2/2] netlink: Use rhashtable walk iterator Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 23:19           ` [PATCH 0/2] rhashtable: Add walk iterator primitives and use them in netlink Herbert Xu
2015-01-27 23:20             ` [PATCH 1/2] rhashtable: Introduce rhashtable_walk_* Herbert Xu
2015-01-29 22:26               ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-27 23:20             ` [PATCH 2/2] netlink: Use rhashtable walk iterator Herbert Xu
2015-01-29 22:27               ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-29 22:42             ` [PATCH 0/2] rhashtable: Add walk iterator primitives and use them in netlink David Miller
2015-01-31  3:13               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-31  3:14                 ` [PATCH 1/2] rhashtable: Introduce rhashtable_walk_* Herbert Xu
2015-01-31  3:14                 ` [PATCH 2/2] netlink: Use rhashtable walk iterator Herbert Xu
2015-01-31  4:31                 ` netfilter: " Herbert Xu
2015-02-01  7:45                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-02-03  3:19                   ` David Miller
2015-02-03  3:19                 ` [PATCH 0/2] rhashtable: Add walk iterator primitives and use them in netlink David Miller
2015-01-20 13:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] netlink: Lock out table resizes while dumping Netlink sockets Thomas Graf
2015-01-20 14:31   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-20 14:55     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-20 15:21       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-20 15:35         ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  5:08           ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  5:15             ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  9:14               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  9:56                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  9:59                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21 10:00                   ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2015-01-21  9:37             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  9:38               ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21  9:49                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  9:58                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21 10:23                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22  6:35                       ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-22  7:20                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-22  9:05                           ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22  9:50                             ` Herbert Xu
2015-01-21 10:34                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21 10:40                       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-21 11:37                         ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21 11:59                           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-21 12:07                             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21 12:09                               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-21 10:36               ` David Laight
2015-01-20 15:00     ` David Laight
2015-01-20 15:05       ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-21  5:11     ` Herbert Xu

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