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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	simon.horman@netronome.com, sfeldma@gmail.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	gerlitz.or@gmail.com, andy@greyhouse.net, ast@plumgrid.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:07:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150123140724.GJ25797@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150123134315.GF2065@nanopsycho.orion>

On 01/23/15 at 02:43pm, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:28:38PM CET, tgraf@suug.ch wrote:
> >If I understand this correctly then you propose to do the decision on
> >whether to implement a flow in software or offload it to hardware in the
> >xflows classifier and action. I had exactly the same architecture in mind
> >initially when I first approached this and wanted to offload OVS
> >datapath flows transparently to hardware.
> 
> Think about xflows as an iface to multiple backends, some sw and some hw.
> User will be able to specify which backed he wants to use for particular
> "commands".
> 
> So for example, ovs kernel datapath module will implement an xflows
> backend and register it as "ovsdp". Rocker will implement another xflows
> backend and register it as "rockerdp". Then, ovs userspace will use xflows
> api to setup both backends independently, but using the same xflows api.
> 
> It is still up to userspace to decide what should be put where (what
> backend to use).

OK, sounds good so far. Although we can't completely ditch the existing
genl based OVS flow API for obvious backwards compatibility reasons ;-)

How does John's API fit into this? How would you expose capabilities
through xflows? How would it differ from what John proposes?

Since this would be a regular tc classifier I assume it could be
attached to any tc class and interface and then combined with other
classifiers which OVS would not be aware of. How do you intend to
resolve such conflicts?

Example:
 eth0:
   ingress qdisc:
     cls prio 20 u32 match [...]
     cls prio 10 xflows [...]

If xflows offloads to hardware, the u32 classifier with higher
priority is hidden unintentionally.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-23 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-20 20:26 [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:26 ` [net-next PATCH v3 01/12] net: flow_table: create interface for hw match/action tables John Fastabend
2015-01-22  4:37   ` Simon Horman
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 02/12] net: flow_table: add rule, delete rule John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 03/12] net: flow: implement flow cache for get routines John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:27 ` [net-next PATCH v3 04/12] net: flow_table: create a set of common headers and actions John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:59   ` John W. Linville
2015-01-20 22:10     ` John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 05/12] net: flow_table: add validation functions for rules John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:28 ` [net-next PATCH v3 06/12] net: rocker: add pipeline model for rocker switch John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 07/12] net: rocker: add set rule ops John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 08/12] net: rocker: add group_id slices and drop explicit goto John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 09/12] net: rocker: add multicast path to bridging John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:30 ` [net-next PATCH v3 10/12] net: rocker: add cookie to group acls and use flow_id to set cookie John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 11/12] net: rocker: have flow api calls set cookie value John Fastabend
2015-01-20 20:31 ` [net-next PATCH v3 12/12] net: rocker: implement delete flow routine John Fastabend
2015-01-22 12:52 ` [net-next PATCH v3 00/12] Flow API Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 13:37   ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 14:00     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 15:00       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:13         ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:28           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:37             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 15:44               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 10:10                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 10:24                   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 11:08                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 11:39                       ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 12:28                         ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 13:43                           ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 14:07                             ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-01-23 15:25                               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:43                                 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:56                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:49                                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:00                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 15:34                               ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 15:53                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-23 16:00                                   ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:08                                     ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 16:16                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-24 13:04                                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-23 17:46                                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 19:59                                   ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 23:16                                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:22                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 13:34                                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 13:01                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-26  8:26                                   ` Simon Horman
2015-01-26 12:26                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-27  4:28                                       ` David Ahern
2015-01-27  4:58                                         ` Andy Gospodarek
2015-01-27 15:54                                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 12:36                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-22 15:48               ` Jiri Pirko
2015-01-22 17:58                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-22 16:49               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-22 17:10                 ` John Fastabend
2015-01-22 17:44                 ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-24 12:34                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-01-24 13:48                     ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23  9:00                 ` David Miller
2015-01-22 16:58           ` John Fastabend
2015-01-23 10:49             ` Thomas Graf
2015-01-23 16:42               ` John Fastabend
2015-01-24 12:29             ` Jamal Hadi Salim

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