From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965477AbbA1Ei4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:38:56 -0500 Received: from mx0a-00082601.pphosted.com ([67.231.145.42]:4218 "EHLO mx0a-00082601.pphosted.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965308AbbA1Eiw (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:38:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:38:32 -0800 From: Calvin Owens To: Andrew Morton CC: Cyrill Gorcunov , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Alexey Dobriyan , Oleg Nesterov , "Eric W. Biederman" , Al Viro , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Peter Feiner , Grant Likely , Siddhesh Poyarekar , , , Pavel Emelyanov , , Kees Cook Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2] procfs: Always expose /proc//map_files/ and make it readable Message-ID: <20150128043832.GA2266262@mail.thefacebook.com> References: <1421194829-28696-1-git-send-email-calvinowens@fb.com> <20150114152501.GB9820@node.dhcp.inet.fi> <20150114153323.GF2253@moon> <20150114204653.GA26698@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150114211613.GH2253@moon> <20150122024554.GB23762@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150124031544.GA1992748@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150126124731.GA26916@node.dhcp.inet.fi> <20150126210054.GG651@moon> <20150126154346.c63c512e5821e9e0ea31f759@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150126154346.c63c512e5821e9e0ea31f759@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.16.4] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-01-27_04:2015-01-27,2015-01-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=fb_default_notspam policy=fb_default score=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=2.77555756156289e-16 kscore.compositescore=0 circleOfTrustscore=0 compositescore=0.128698695412054 urlsuspect_oldscore=0.128698695412054 suspectscore=2 recipient_domain_to_sender_totalscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 recipient_to_sender_totalscore=0 recipient_domain_to_sender_domain_totalscore=2524143 rbsscore=0.128698695412054 spamscore=0 recipient_to_sender_domain_totalscore=12 urlsuspectscore=0.9 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1501280049 X-FB-Internal: deliver Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Monday 01/26 at 15:43 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:00:54 +0300 Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 02:47:31PM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 07:15:44PM -0800, Calvin Owens wrote: > > > > Currently, /proc//map_files/ is restricted to CAP_SYS_ADMIN, and > > > > is only exposed if CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE is set. This interface > > > > is very useful for enumerating the files mapped into a process when > > > > the more verbose information in /proc//maps is not needed. > > This is the main (actually only) justification for the patch, and it it > far too thin. What does "not needed" mean. Why can't people just use > /proc/pid/maps? The biggest difference is that if you do something like this: fd = open("/stuff", O_BLAH); map = mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_BLAH, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); close(fd); unlink("/stuff"); ...then map_files/ gives you a way to get a file descriptor for "/stuff", which you couldn't do with /proc/pid/maps. It's also something of a win if you just want to see what is mapped at a specific address, since you can just readlink() the symlink for the address range you care about and it will go grab the appropriate VMA and give you the answer. /proc/pid/maps requires walking the VMA tree, which is quite expensive for processes with many thousands of threads, even without the O(N^2) issue. (You have to know what address range you want though, since readdir() on map_files/ obviously has to walk the VMA tree just like /proc/N/maps.) > > > > This patch moves the folder out from behind CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, and > > > > removes the CAP_SYS_ADMIN restrictions. Following the links requires > > > > the ability to ptrace the process in question, so this doesn't allow > > > > an attacker to do anything they couldn't already do before. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Calvin Owens > > > > > > Cc +linux-api@ > > > > Looks good to me, thanks! Though I would really appreciate if someone > > from security camp take a look as well. > > hm, who's that. Kees comes to mind. > > And reviewers' task would be a heck of a lot easier if they knew what > /proc/pid/map_files actually does. This: > > akpm3:/usr/src/25> grep -r map_files Documentation > akpm3:/usr/src/25> > > does not help. > > The 640708a2cff7f81 changelog says: > > : This one behaves similarly to the /proc//fd/ one - it contains > : symlinks one for each mapping with file, the name of a symlink is > : "vma->vm_start-vma->vm_end", the target is the file. Opening a symlink > : results in a file that point exactly to the same inode as them vma's one. > : > : For example the ls -l of some arbitrary /proc//map_files/ > : > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80403000-7f8f80404000 -> /lib64/libc-2.5.so > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f8061e000-7f8f80620000 -> /lib64/libselinux.so.1 > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80826000-7f8f80827000 -> /lib64/libacl.so.1.1.0 > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80a2f000-7f8f80a30000 -> /lib64/librt-2.5.so > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80a30000-7f8f80a4c000 -> /lib64/ld-2.5.so > > afacit this info is also available in /proc/pid/maps, so things > shouldn't get worse if the /proc/pid/map_files permissions are at least > as restrictive as the /proc/pid/maps permissions. Is that the case? > (Please add to changelog). Yes, the only difference is that you can follow the link as per above. I'll resend with a new message explaining that and the deletion thing. > There's one other problem here: we're assuming that the map_files > implementation doesn't have bugs. If it does have bugs then relaxing > permissions like this will create new vulnerabilities. And the > map_files implementation is surprisingly complex. Is it bug-free? While I was messing with it I used it a good bit and didn't see any issues, although I didn't actively try to fuzz it or anything. I'd be happy to write something to test hammering it in weird ways if you like. I'm also happy to write testcases for namespaces. So far as security issues, as others have pointed out you can't follow the links unless you can ptrace the process in question, which seems like a pretty solid guarantee. As Cyrill pointed out in the discussion about the documentation, that's the same protection as /proc/N/fd/*, and those links function in the same way. Thanks, Calvin From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Calvin Owens Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2] procfs: Always expose /proc//map_files/ and make it readable Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:38:32 -0800 Message-ID: <20150128043832.GA2266262@mail.thefacebook.com> References: <1421194829-28696-1-git-send-email-calvinowens@fb.com> <20150114152501.GB9820@node.dhcp.inet.fi> <20150114153323.GF2253@moon> <20150114204653.GA26698@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150114211613.GH2253@moon> <20150122024554.GB23762@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150124031544.GA1992748@mail.thefacebook.com> <20150126124731.GA26916@node.dhcp.inet.fi> <20150126210054.GG651@moon> <20150126154346.c63c512e5821e9e0ea31f759@linux-foundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150126154346.c63c512e5821e9e0ea31f759@linux-foundation.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Andrew Morton Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Alexey Dobriyan , Oleg Nesterov , "Eric W. Biederman" , Al Viro , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Peter Feiner , Grant Likely , Siddhesh Poyarekar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, Pavel Emelyanov , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Monday 01/26 at 15:43 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:00:54 +0300 Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 02:47:31PM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 07:15:44PM -0800, Calvin Owens wrote: > > > > Currently, /proc//map_files/ is restricted to CAP_SYS_ADMIN, and > > > > is only exposed if CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE is set. This interface > > > > is very useful for enumerating the files mapped into a process when > > > > the more verbose information in /proc//maps is not needed. > > This is the main (actually only) justification for the patch, and it it > far too thin. What does "not needed" mean. Why can't people just use > /proc/pid/maps? The biggest difference is that if you do something like this: fd = open("/stuff", O_BLAH); map = mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_BLAH, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); close(fd); unlink("/stuff"); ...then map_files/ gives you a way to get a file descriptor for "/stuff", which you couldn't do with /proc/pid/maps. It's also something of a win if you just want to see what is mapped at a specific address, since you can just readlink() the symlink for the address range you care about and it will go grab the appropriate VMA and give you the answer. /proc/pid/maps requires walking the VMA tree, which is quite expensive for processes with many thousands of threads, even without the O(N^2) issue. (You have to know what address range you want though, since readdir() on map_files/ obviously has to walk the VMA tree just like /proc/N/maps.) > > > > This patch moves the folder out from behind CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, and > > > > removes the CAP_SYS_ADMIN restrictions. Following the links requires > > > > the ability to ptrace the process in question, so this doesn't allow > > > > an attacker to do anything they couldn't already do before. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Calvin Owens > > > > > > Cc +linux-api@ > > > > Looks good to me, thanks! Though I would really appreciate if someone > > from security camp take a look as well. > > hm, who's that. Kees comes to mind. > > And reviewers' task would be a heck of a lot easier if they knew what > /proc/pid/map_files actually does. This: > > akpm3:/usr/src/25> grep -r map_files Documentation > akpm3:/usr/src/25> > > does not help. > > The 640708a2cff7f81 changelog says: > > : This one behaves similarly to the /proc//fd/ one - it contains > : symlinks one for each mapping with file, the name of a symlink is > : "vma->vm_start-vma->vm_end", the target is the file. Opening a symlink > : results in a file that point exactly to the same inode as them vma's one. > : > : For example the ls -l of some arbitrary /proc//map_files/ > : > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80403000-7f8f80404000 -> /lib64/libc-2.5.so > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f8061e000-7f8f80620000 -> /lib64/libselinux.so.1 > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80826000-7f8f80827000 -> /lib64/libacl.so.1.1.0 > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80a2f000-7f8f80a30000 -> /lib64/librt-2.5.so > : | lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Aug 26 06:40 7f8f80a30000-7f8f80a4c000 -> /lib64/ld-2.5.so > > afacit this info is also available in /proc/pid/maps, so things > shouldn't get worse if the /proc/pid/map_files permissions are at least > as restrictive as the /proc/pid/maps permissions. Is that the case? > (Please add to changelog). Yes, the only difference is that you can follow the link as per above. I'll resend with a new message explaining that and the deletion thing. > There's one other problem here: we're assuming that the map_files > implementation doesn't have bugs. If it does have bugs then relaxing > permissions like this will create new vulnerabilities. And the > map_files implementation is surprisingly complex. Is it bug-free? While I was messing with it I used it a good bit and didn't see any issues, although I didn't actively try to fuzz it or anything. I'd be happy to write something to test hammering it in weird ways if you like. I'm also happy to write testcases for namespaces. So far as security issues, as others have pointed out you can't follow the links unless you can ptrace the process in question, which seems like a pretty solid guarantee. As Cyrill pointed out in the discussion about the documentation, that's the same protection as /proc/N/fd/*, and those links function in the same way. Thanks, Calvin