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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:11:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150205091125.GA2589@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54D26620.40902@redhat.com>

* Eric Blake (eblake@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 02/04/2015 07:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> I think fixing this for migration might simplify stuff for users a lot as well;
> >> the choice of whether libvirt does tunneling or not and what it means
> >> for how block migration happens etc can get very confusing.
> > 
> > Yes, and not helped by the fact that no single current impl offers all
> > desired features - they are all partially overlapping sets :-(
> 
> >> Some things to keep in mind:
> >>   1) The current patch from Liang Li doing multi threaded compression
> >>      It just strikes me as an exmaple of another type of filter in the migration
> >>      stream.
> > 
> > Yes, that does make sense in that way,
> > 
> >>   2) Postcopy and fault tolerance need a bidirectional channel; and that back
> >>      channel tends to be small messages.
> > 
> > TLS will require bidirectional channels too in order to perform the
> > handshake. SASL will require bidirectional channels too. So this
> > seems rather inevitable.
> > 
> >>   3) I'd considered making a separate socket/fd for passing page data
> >>      in the hope of maybe making that page take data via splice; but am not
> >>      sure yet.
> 
> Another thing to think about - should migration to file be something
> that can be encrypted?  There, you don't have the luxury of a
> bidirectional channel, but securing the machine state so that only an
> authenticated user can decrypt to reload the state later sounds like
> another benefit that might be possible.

That's something that's pretty easy to do via exec-migration; so I'm
not sure it's worth doing anything particularly special for it.

Dave

> 
> -- 
> Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
> Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
> 


--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-05  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-04 11:32 [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 13:00   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 13:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:08       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:34           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 15:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:11               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 15:22                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:26                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 16:46                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05 14:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-02-05 14:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-02-05 14:45         ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 13:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:55       ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 16:33         ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 16:41           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 20:41           ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 21:06             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05  7:57             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-04 14:02   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:28     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:48       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-02-04 14:50         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 18:34     ` Eric Blake
2015-02-05  9:11       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2015-02-04 14:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:37     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-06 17:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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