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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: dm-mpath request merging concerns [was: Re: It's time to put together the schedule]
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:50:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150223135057.GA3362@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54EAD453.6040907@suse.de>

On Mon, Feb 23 2015 at  2:18am -0500,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> wrote:

> On 02/20/2015 02:29 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > In the absence of any strong requests, the Programme Committee has taken
> > a first stab at an agenda here:
> > 
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ArurRVMVCSnkdEl4a0NrNTgtU2JrWDNtWGRDOWRhZnc
> > 
> > If there's anything you think should be discussed (or shouldn't be
> > discussed) speak now ...
> > 
> Recently we've found a rather worrysome queueing degradation with
> multipathing, which pointed to a deficiency in the scheduler itself:
> SAP found that a device with 4 paths had less I/O throughput than a
> system with 2 paths. When they've reduced the queue depth on the 4
> path system they managed to increase the throughput somewhat, but
> still less than they've had with two paths.

The block layer doesn't have any understanding of how many paths are
behind the top-level dm-mpath request_queue that is supposed to be doing
the merging.

So from a pure design level it is surprising that 2 vs 4 is impacting
the merging at all.  I think Jeff Moyer (cc'd) has dealt with SAP
performance recently too.

> As it turns out, with 4 paths the system rarely did any I/O merging,
> but rather fired off the 4k requests as fast as possible.
> With two paths it was able to do some merging, leading to improved
> performance.
> 
> I was under the impression that the merging algorithm in the block
> layer would only unplug the queue once the request had been fully
> formed, ie after merging has happened. But apparently that is not
> the case here.

Just because you aren't seeing merging are you sure it has anything to
do with unpluging?  Would be nice to know more about the workload.

Mike

       reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1424395745.2603.27.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
     [not found] ` <54EAD453.6040907@suse.de>
2015-02-23 13:50   ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2015-02-23 17:18     ` [Lsf] dm-mpath request merging concerns [was: Re: It's time to put together the schedule] Mike Christie
2015-02-23 18:34       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-23 19:56         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 21:19           ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-23 22:46             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 22:14               ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-24  0:39                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-24  0:38                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-24  2:02                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-24 14:35                       ` Jeff Moyer
2015-02-24 14:59                         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 19:35       ` [Lsf] " Merla, ShivaKrishna
2015-02-23 19:50       ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 20:08         ` [Lsf] " Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-23 20:39           ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 21:14             ` Mike Snitzer
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     [not found]           ` <1425311094.2187.11.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
2015-03-08 18:11             ` RFC for small allocation failure mode transition plan (was: Re: [Lsf] common session about page allocator vs. FS/IO) It's time to put together the schedule) Michal Hocko

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