From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752823AbbCWQnW (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:43:22 -0400 Received: from e31.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.149]:34755 "EHLO e31.co.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752182AbbCWQnV (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:43:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:43:13 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Ingo Molnar , Petr Mladek , Masami Hiramatsu , "David S. Miller" , Anil S Keshavamurthy , Ananth NMavinakayanahalli , Frederic Weisbecker , Ingo Molnar , Jiri Kosina , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] kprobes: Disable Kprobe when ftrace arming fails Message-ID: <20150323164313.GG5718@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com References: <1426860127-7896-1-git-send-email-pmladek@suse.cz> <20150323085426.GB28965@gmail.com> <20150323101253.GN11869@pathway.suse.cz> <20150323103327.GA12213@gmail.com> <20150323123955.GE15177@pathway.suse.cz> <20150323093013.15b6070b@gandalf.local.home> <20150323133442.GC23145@gmail.com> <20150323094317.38dcb601@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150323094317.38dcb601@gandalf.local.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-Content-Scanned: Fidelis XPS MAILER x-cbid: 15032316-8236-0000-0000-00000A51F0DD Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:43:17AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:34:42 +0100 > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > Even if it was documented (it isn't), it's pretty weird terminology - > > please use clearer formulations, like 'patched function' or 'unpatched > > function' or 'function with pending patch'. No need to redefine > > existing words in a weird fashion just to create the appearance of > > being special ... > > > > I think it has to do with their RCU like patching functionality, where > some tasks are still executing the old function and others are > executing the new function. In RCU, there's two "universes" too. One > with the old value, and one with the new. After the grace period has > finished, everything is back to a single "universe". > > I'm not sure RCU uses the term "universe" though. Paul? I have used "version" for what you call "universe", but mostly in "intro to RCU" guest lectures. Thanx, Paul