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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
To: Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>
Cc: <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Use blocked_lock_lock only to protect blocked_hash
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:17:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326091729.29085942@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5513DB47.7050504@bmw-carit.de>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:11:19 +0100
Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Sorry for the long delay. Was I week on holiday and the testing
> took a bit longer than I expected.
> 
> On 03/14/2015 01:40 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 09:20:24 +0100
> > Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de> wrote:
> >> On 03/07/2015 03:00 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >>> On Fri,  6 Mar 2015 08:53:30 +0100
> >>> Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Finally, I got a bigger machine and did a quick test round. I expected
> >>>> to see some improvements but the resutls do not show any real gain. So
> >>>> they are merely refactoring patches.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Ok, in that case is there any point in merging these? I'm all for
> >>> breaking up global locks when it makes sense, but if you can't
> >>> demonstrate a clear benefit then I'm less inclined to take the churn.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps we should wait to see if a benefit emerges when/if you convert
> >>> the lglock code to use normal spinlocks (like Andi suggested)? That
> >>> seems like a rather simple conversion, and I don't think it's
> >>> "cheating" in any sense of the word.
> >>>
> >>> I do however wonder why Nick used arch_spinlock_t there when he wrote
> >>> the lglock code instead of normal spinlocks. Was it simply memory usage
> >>> considerations or something else?
> >>
> >> I did a complete test run with 4.0.0-rc3, the two patches from this
> >> thread (fs-locks-v10), the spinlock_t conversion (lglock-v0)
> >> and fs-locks-v10 and lglock-v0 combined. Some of the test take rather
> >> long on my machine (12 minutes per run) so I tweaked it a bit to get
> >> more samples. Each test was run 100 times.
> >>
> >> The raw data and scripts are here: http://www.monom.org/lglock/data/
> >>
> >> flock01
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3  8930.8708 282098.1663   531.1291  9612.7085  4681.8674
> >>              fs-locks-v10  9081.6789 43493.0287   208.5498  9747.8491  8072.6508
> >>                 lglock-v0  9004.9252 12339.3832   111.0828  9489.5420  8493.0763
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0  9053.6680 17714.5623   133.0961  9588.7413  8555.0727
> >>
> >>
> >> flock02
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3   553.1720  1057.6026    32.5208   606.2989   479.5528
> >>              fs-locks-v10   596.0683  1486.8345    38.5595   662.6566   512.4865
> >>                 lglock-v0   595.2150   976.8544    31.2547   646.7506   527.2517
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0   587.5492   989.9467    31.4634   646.2098   509.6020
> >>
> >>
> >> lease01
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3   505.2654   780.7545    27.9420   564.2530   433.7727
> >>              fs-locks-v10   523.6855   705.2606    26.5567   570.3401   442.6539
> >>                 lglock-v0   516.7525  1026.7596    32.0431   573.8766   433.4124
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0   513.6507   751.1674    27.4074   567.0972   435.6154
> >>
> >>
> >> lease02
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3  3588.2069 26736.0422   163.5116  3769.7430  3154.8405
> >>              fs-locks-v10  3566.0658 34225.6410   185.0017  3747.6039  3188.5478
> >>                 lglock-v0  3585.0648 28720.1679   169.4703  3758.7240  3150.9310
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0  3621.9347 17706.2354   133.0648  3744.0095  3174.0998
> >>
> >>
> >> posix01
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3  9297.5030 26911.6602   164.0477  9941.8094  8963.3528
> >>              fs-locks-v10  9462.8665 44762.9316   211.5725 10504.3205  9202.5748
> >>                 lglock-v0  9320.4716 47168.9903   217.1842 10401.6565  9054.1950
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0  9458.1463 58231.8844   241.3128 10564.2086  9193.1177
> >>
> >>
> >> posix02
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3   920.6533  2648.1293    51.4600   983.4213   790.1792
> >>              fs-locks-v10   915.3972  4384.6821    66.2169  1004.2339   795.4129
> >>                 lglock-v0   888.1910  4644.0478    68.1473   983.8412   777.4851
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0   926.4184  1834.6481    42.8328   975.8544   794.4582
> >>
> >>
> >> posix03
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3     7.5202     0.0456     0.2136     7.9697     6.9803
> >>              fs-locks-v10     7.5203     0.0640     0.2529     7.9619     7.0063
> >>                 lglock-v0     7.4738     0.0349     0.1867     7.8011     7.0973
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0     7.5856     0.0595     0.2439     8.1098     6.8695
> >>
> >>
> >> posix04
> >>                              mean   variance      sigma        max        min
> >>                 4.0.0-rc3     0.6699     0.1091     0.3303     3.3845     0.5247
> >>              fs-locks-v10     0.6320     0.0026     0.0511     0.9064     0.5195
> >>                 lglock-v0     0.6460     0.0039     0.0623     1.0830     0.5438
> >>    fs-locks-v10+lglock-v0     0.6589     0.0338     0.1838     2.0346     0.5393
> >>
> >>
> >> Hmm, not really convincing numbers. I hoped to see scaling effects but nope, no fun.
> >>
> > 
> > Yeah...
> > 
> > That said, the lglock-v0 numbers do look a little better. Perhaps it
> > would make sense to go ahead and consider that change? It's not clear
> > to me why the lglock code uses arch_spinlock_t. Was it just the extra
> > memory usage or was there some other reason?
> 
> If my reading is correct, the main difference between spinlock_t 
> and arch_spinlock_t is the avoidance of the trylock path:
> 
>  	spin_lock(&lock)
> 	  raw_spin_lock(&lock)
> 	    _raw_spin_lock(&lock)
> 	      __raw_spin_lock(&lock)
> 
> 	static inline void __raw_spin_lock(raw_spinlock_t *lock)
> 	{
> 		preempt_disable();
> 		spin_acquire(&lock->dep_map, 0, 0, _RET_IP_);
> 		LOCK_CONTENDED(lock, do_raw_spin_trylock, do_raw_spin_lock);
> 	}
> 
> 	static inline int do_raw_spin_trylock(raw_spinlock_t *lock)
> 	{
> 		return arch_spin_trylock(&(lock)->raw_lock);
> 	}
> 	
> 	static inline void do_raw_spin_lock(raw_spinlock_t *lock) __acquires(lock)
> 	{
> 		__acquire(lock);
> 		arch_spin_lock(&lock->raw_lock);
> 	}
> 	
> 
> So with using arch_spin_lock(&lock) lglock is short cutting the
> path slightly.
> 
> The memory consumption is even less using spinlock_t:
> 
> 4.0.0-rc5
> 
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>   19941    2409    1088   23438    5b8e fs/locks.o
>     822       0       0     822     336 kernel/locking/lglock.o
> 
> [    0.000000] setup_percpu: NR_CPUS:64 nr_cpumask_bits:64 nr_cpu_ids:64 nr_node_ids:4
> [    0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 32 pages/cpu @ffff881fbfc00000 s92888 r8192 d29992 u131072
> [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: s92888 r8192 d29992 u131072 alloc=1*2097152
> [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [0] 00 04 08 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 
> [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [1] 01 05 09 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 
> [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [2] 02 06 10 14 18 22 26 30 34 38 42 46 50 54 58 62 
> [    0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [3] 03 07 11 15 19 23 27 31 35 39 43 47 51 55 59 63 
> [    0.000000] Built 4 zonelists in Node order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 132109066
> 
> 
> 4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0
> 
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>   19941    2409    1088   23438    5b8e fs/locks.o
>     620       0       0     620     26c kernel/locking/lglock.o
> 
> [  +0.000000] setup_percpu: NR_CPUS:64 nr_cpumask_bits:64 nr_cpu_ids:64 nr_node_ids:4
> [  +0.000000] PERCPU: Embedded 32 pages/cpu @ffff881fbfc00000 s92888 r8192 d29992 u131072
> [  +0.000000] pcpu-alloc: s92888 r8192 d29992 u131072 alloc=1*2097152
> [  +0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [0] 00 04 08 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 
> [  +0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [1] 01 05 09 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 
> [  +0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [2] 02 06 10 14 18 22 26 30 34 38 42 46 50 54 58 62 
> [  +0.000000] pcpu-alloc: [3] 03 07 11 15 19 23 27 31 35 39 43 47 51 55 59 63 
> [  +0.000000] Built 4 zonelists in Node order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 132109066
> 
> 
> Legend: s: static size, r: reserved size, d: dynamic size, u: unit size
> 

Memory consumption here really shouldn't be much of a factor. These are
global objects after all, so we really aren't looking at much memory in
the big scheme of things.

> 
> I did another round of measurements with different parameters and saw 
> some unexpected things:
> 
>  - flock01: The number of child processes is close to the number
>    of cores (eg. 128 processes on 64 cores) and the number of test
>    iterations is relatively low (32 iterations). In this configuration
>    the results are not stable:
> 
> 	while true; do 
> 		rm -rf /tmp/a; flock01 -n 128 -l 32 /tmp/a; 
> 	done
> 
> 	38.392769508
> 	1.054781151
> 	113.731122000
> 	66.362571593
> 	97.581588309
> 	0.015311589
> 	117.311633231
> 	0.015412247
> 	0.014909320
> 	0.015469361
> 	0.015481439
> 	38.779573512
> 	101.239880635
> 	0.822888216
> 	...
> 
>    I see this on 4.0.0-rc5 with or without the lglock-v0 patch.
>    This looks like if we are lucky the children of flock01 get
>    along without interfering and that results in low numbers.
> 

Yep. That test is more or less at the mercy of the scheduler.

>    If they system is not idle (kernel build in background
>    'make -j200') then the numbers get more consistent:
> 
> 	0.034442009
> 	0.035964874
> 	0.026305154
> 	0.030738657
> 	0.024400840
> 	0.028685513
> 	0.025869458
> 	0.027475024
> 	0.023971313
> 	0.026113323
> 	0.033676295
> 	....
> 

Interesting.

>  - I also played with lockdep detection. With lglock-v0 applied
>    some tests like flock02 and posix02 get considerable worse
>    results. The difference between flock01 and flock02 is that
>    the children of flock01 fight over one file lock versus
>    the children of flock02 lock and unlock their own lock.
>    My best guess is that the lockdep tracing is adding
>    far more to the per child lock configuration. I didn't find
>    any other explanation than this. Although I have to admit
>    I can't find a good argument why this makes a difference
>    between arch_spinlock_t and spinlock_t. 
> 
> 
> With lockdep enabled:
> 
> flock01
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   339.6094  2174.4070    46.6305   446.6720   219.1196
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0   499.1753  8123.7092    90.1316   666.3474   315.5089
> 
> 
> flock02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   201.2253    64.5758     8.0359   219.6059   179.1278
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0   785.1701  1049.7690    32.4001   844.4298   715.6951
> 
> 
> lease01
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     8.6606     4.2222     2.0548    13.3409     4.2273
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0    12.1898     3.5871     1.8940    16.5744     9.2004
> 
> 
> lease02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5    42.0945     1.2928     1.1370    44.8503    37.0932
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0    38.5887     0.4077     0.6385    39.8308    36.3703
> 
> 
> posix01
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   407.8706  3005.7657    54.8249   581.1921   293.4723
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0   613.6238  5604.3537    74.8622   781.7903   487.7466
> 
> 
> posix02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   340.7774   186.4059    13.6531   365.8146   315.1692
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0  1319.7676   726.9997    26.9629  1377.5981  1242.2350
> 
> 
> posix03
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     0.9615     0.0040     0.0629     1.1086     0.8280
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     1.2682     0.0009     0.0299     1.3415     1.1902
> 
> 
> posix04
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     0.0527     0.0003     0.0172     0.1156     0.0237
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     0.0365     0.0001     0.0101     0.0887     0.0249
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Without lockdep:
> 
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   448.0287 15417.8359   124.1686   527.8083     0.0081
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0   395.1646 28713.4347   169.4504   520.7507     0.0075
> 
> 
> flock02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     6.9185     0.8830     0.9397    10.6138     4.9707
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     6.2474     0.9234     0.9610     9.5478     4.3703
> 
> 
> lease01
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     7.7040     0.3930     0.6269     9.1874     5.4179
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     7.6862     0.7794     0.8828     9.0623     1.3639
> 
> 
> lease02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5    16.3074     0.1418     0.3766    17.1600    15.0240
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0    16.2698     0.2772     0.5265    17.2221    13.4127
> 
> 
> posix01
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5   531.5151   181.3078    13.4651   596.5883   501.2940
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0   531.3600   209.0023    14.4569   600.7317   507.1767
> 
> 
> posix02
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5    13.8395     2.9768     1.7253    22.0783     9.9136
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0    12.6822     3.1645     1.7789    18.1258     9.0030
> 
> 
> posix03
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     0.8939     0.0006     0.0242     0.9392     0.8360
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     0.9050     0.0006     0.0254     0.9617     0.8454
> 
> 
> posix04
>                                      mean   variance      sigma        max        min
>                      4.0.0-rc5     0.0122     0.0000     0.0023     0.0227     0.0083
>            4.0.0-rc5-lglock-v0     0.0115     0.0000     0.0016     0.0165     0.0091
> 

lockdep has overhead, and when you move from arch_spinlock_t to
"normal" spinlock_t's you end up with per-spinlock lockdep structures.
I wouldn't worry much about performance with lockdep enabled.

> > You had mentioned at one point that lglocks didn't play well with the
> > -rt kernels. What's the actual problem there?
> 
> -rt kernels like to preempt everything possible. One mean to achieve
> this is by exchanging normal spinlock_t with rt_mutex. arch_spinlock_t
> does not get this treatment automatically via the lock framework. 
> For this following patch is carried around:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rt/linux-stable-rt.git/commit/?h=v3.14-rt-rebase&id=da1cbed0dcf6ab22a4b50b0c5606271067749aef
> 
>  struct lglock {
> +#ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL
>         arch_spinlock_t __percpu *lock;
> +#else
> +       struct rt_mutex __percpu *lock;
> +#endif
>  #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>         struct lock_class_key lock_key;
>         struct lockdep_map    lock_dep_map;
>  #endif
>  };
> 
> [...]
> 

Ok. Is that approach problematic in some way? I'm trying to understand
the exact problem that you're trying to solve for -rt with this effort.

> 
> I have modified version of the above patch ontop of of the lglock-v0
> which drops all the ifdefing around arch_spinlock_t and rt_mutex. The
> results are identical.
> 
> If there aren't any objection I send the lglock-v0 patch with a proper
> commit message.
> 

I'll be happy to take a look.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-26 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-06  7:53 [PATCH v3 0/2] Use blocked_lock_lock only to protect blocked_hash Daniel Wagner
2015-03-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] locks: Split insert/delete block functions into flock/posix parts Daniel Wagner
2015-03-06  7:53 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] locks: Use blocked_lock_lock only to protect blocked_hash Daniel Wagner
2015-03-07 14:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Jeff Layton
2015-03-07 14:00   ` Jeff Layton
2015-03-07 14:09   ` Jeff Layton
2015-03-10  8:20   ` Daniel Wagner
2015-03-14 12:40     ` Jeff Layton
2015-03-26 10:11       ` Daniel Wagner
2015-03-26 13:17         ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2015-03-26 13:55           ` Daniel Wagner

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