All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHSET] non-recursive link_path_walk() and reducing stack footprint
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:35:34 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150424163534.6eb109eb@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150423180754.GA889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 9971 bytes --]

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:07:55 +0100 Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 05:45:44PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> > follow_link calls  link_path_walk -> walk_component -> lookup_fast which sets
> > nd->seq.  Is that not enough?  I guess not when nd_jump_link is called.  Is
> > that what I missed?
> 
> No.  Potential nd_jump_link() callers are just refusing to go there in lazy
> mode, end of story.  That's not the problem; see below.
> 
> > One thing that is clear to me is that I don't really understand all the
> > handling of 'seq' numbers, making me unable to comment usefully.
> > I'll try to go through the current code and you current patch with that issue
> > in mind and make sure I do understand it.  Then I'll try to comment.
> 
> OK, here's the basic theory behind the lazy pathwalk:
> 
> * during the entire exercise we never drop rcu_read_lock, therefore any
> objects that have all references to them removed before RCU-delayed
> freeing (inodes, dentries, superblocks and vfsmounts are among such)
> that we might find in process won't be freed until after we are done.
> 
> * invariant we are keeping:
> 	at some point between the beginning of walk and now the pathname
> traversed so far would lead to nd->path, with nd->seq and nd->inode equal to
> ->d_seq and ->d_inode of the dentry in question.

Thanks for all of this!
I think one part that was confusing me is that there is a place where nd->seq
does related to nd->path.dentry.
Usually  the two are updated at the same time.
However updated nd->seq, but *doesn't* update nd->path.dentry.
Instead, the dentry is stored in a separate 'path' variable.
This discrepancy is eventually resolved in a call to path_to_nameidata().

Which is a bit confusing until you know what is happening :-)


> 
> * path_init() arranges for that to be true in the beginning of the walk.
> 
> * symlinks aside, walk_component() preserves that.
> 	+ normal name components go through lookup_fast(), where we have
> 	  __d_lookup_rcu() find a child of current nd->path with matching
> 	  name and (atomically) picks ->d_seq of that child, which had the
> 	  name matching our component.  Atomicity is provided by ->d_lock
> 	  on child.  Then we proceed to pick ->d_inode (and verify that

I don't see d_lock being taken  in __d_lookup_rcu.
I think this atomicity is provided by ->d_seq on the child.


> 	  ->d_seq has not changed, thus making sure that ->d_inode value
> 	  at the moment when the name matched had been the same and child
> 	  is still hashed.  Then we verify that parent's ->d_seq has not
> 	  changed, guaranteeing that parent hadn't been moved or unhashed
> 	  from the moment we'd found it until after we'd found its child.
> 	  Assuming nothing's mounted on top of that thing, and there's no
> 	  problem with ->d_revalidate()), that's it - we have new nd->seq,
> 	  nd->path and nd->inode satisfying our invariant for longer
> 	  piece of pathname.
> 	+ "." needs nothing - we just stay where we are
> 	+ ".." is handled by follow_dotdot_rcu(), which in the normal case
> 	  (no mountpoint crossing) picks ->d_parent of where we are,
> 	  fetches its ->d_inode and ->d_seq and verifies that our directory
> 	  still hadn't changed _its_ ->d_seq.  The last part guarantees that
> 	  it hadn't been moved since the time we'd found it, and thus its
> 	  ->d_parent had remained unchanged at least until that verification.
> 	  Therefore, it remained pinned all along, and it ->d_inode had
> 	  remained stable, including the moment when we fetched ->d_seq.
> 	  Which means that the value we had picked *and* its ->d_inode and
> 	  ->d_seq would satisfy the invariant for the longer piece of
> 	  pathname.
> 	+ mountpoint crossing towards leaves is handled in __follow_mount_rcu();
> 	  it is simple (->mnt_root never changes and is always pinned,
> 	  stabilizing its ->d_inode), but we might need to worry about
> 	  automount points *and* need to make sure that we stop right
> 	  there if mount_lock has been bumped.  See commit b37199e6 for
> 	  the details on the last part - basically, making sure that false
> 	  negatives from __lookup_mnt() won't end up with hard error when
> 	  we walk into whatever had been under the mountpoint we'd missed.
> 	+ mountpoint crossing towards root (in follow_dotdot_rcu()) is
> 	  similar, but there we obviously don't care about automounts.
> 	  Looking at it now, it might make sense to recheck mount_lock there
> 	  as well, though - potential danger is to hit the moment when
> 	  mnt_parent and mnt_mountpoint are out of sync, leaving us with
> 	  mismatched vfsmount,dentry pair.  Generally, that will be caught
> 	  when we try to leave lazy mode (legitimize_mnt() will fail) or
> 	  to cross towards leaves, but the next crossing towards root
> 	  might be bogus as well, and we could end up with unwarranted hard
> 	  error.  Should be very hard to hit, but it's easy enough to check
> 	  *and* backport, so it looks like a good idea for -stable.  Linus,
> 	  do you have any objections against adding
>                 if (read_seqretry(&mount_lock, nd->m_seq))
>                         goto failed;
> 	  right after
>                 if (!follow_up_rcu(&nd->path))
>                         break;
> 	  in follow_dotdot_rcu()?  It's a very narrow race with mount --move
> 	  and most of the time it ends up being completely harmless, but
> 	  it's possible to construct a case when we'll get a bogus hard error
> 	  instead of falling back to non-lazy walk...  OTOH, anyone doing
> 	  that will get something inherently timing-dependent as the result,
> 	  lazy mode or not.  I'm in favour of adding that check, but IMO it's
> 	  not a critical problem.
> 
> * if we find that we can't continue in lazy mode because some verification
> fails, we just fail with -ECHILD.  However, in cases when our current position
> might be fine, but the next step can't be done in lazy mode, we attempt to
> fall back to non-lazy without full restart that would be caused by -ECHILD.
> That's what unlazy_walk() is.  Of course, if we reach the end of walk we
> need to leave the lazy mode as well (complete_walk()).  Either can fail,
> and such a failure means restart from scratch in non-lazy mode.  We need
> to grab references on vfsmount and dentry (or two dentries, when we have
> parent and child to deal with).  The interesting part is vfsmount - we need
> to make sure we won't interfere with umount(2), having walked in that sucker
> *after* umount(2) has checked that it's not busy.  See legitimize_mnt() for
> details; basically, we have umount(2) mark the "I've verified it's not busy
> and it's going to be killed no matter what" with MNT_SYNC_UMOUNT and rely
> on RCU delays on that path - if we find one of those, we undo the
> increment of its refcount we'd just done, without having dropped
> rcu_read_lock().  Full-blown mntput() is done only on mismatches that
> had _not_ been marked that way.
> 
> BTW, something similar to the above probably needs to be turned into coherent
> text, either in parallel to Documentation/filesystems/path-lookup.txt, or
> as update to it.

That might be fun.... if I find time.


> 
> The reason why walk_component() in your call chain won't suffice is simple -
> it will fail this
>                 /*
>                  * This sequence count validates that the parent had no
>                  * changes while we did the lookup of the dentry above.
>                  *
>                  * The memory barrier in read_seqcount_begin of child is
>                  *  enough, we can use __read_seqcount_retry here.
>                  */
>                 if (__read_seqcount_retry(&parent->d_seq, nd->seq))
>                         return -ECHILD;
> in lookup_fast(), just before updating nd->seq to new value.  Basically,
> it has no way to tell if parent has been buggered to hell and back.
> 
> It's not _that_ hard to prevent - we just need to stop discarding the parent's
> seq number in "need to follow a symlink" case of walk_component().  Will take
> some massage, but not too much...

So.....
Where I have:

+                       if (nd->flags & LOOKUP_RCU) {
+                               if (!nd->root.mnt)
+                                       set_root_rcu(nd);
+                               nd->path = nd->root;


in the case where the symlink starts '/', I need to set nd->seq

		nd->seq = read_seqcount_begin(&nd->path.dentry->d_seq);


but in the case where symlink doesn't start '/', I don't change nd->path,
so nd->seq should still be correct?

Also, just after that (still in follow_link()), we have

		nd->inode = nd->path.dentry->d_inode;

*after* the test for (*s == '/').
Wouldn't is be OK to have that *inside* the if?  In the relative-symlink case
it should be unchanged, and in the jump-symlink case nd_jump_link() has already
done that (and probably NULL was returns for 's' so this code doesn't execute).

So following on top of my previous patches?

Thanks heaps,
NeilBrown


diff --git a/fs/namei.c b/fs/namei.c
index d13b4315447f..ce6387d5317c 100644
--- a/fs/namei.c
+++ b/fs/namei.c
@@ -947,6 +947,8 @@ follow_link(struct path *link, struct nameidata *nd, void **p)
 				if (!nd->root.mnt)
 					set_root_rcu(nd);
 				nd->path = nd->root;
+				nd->seq = read_seqcount_begin(
+					&nd->path->dentry->d_seq);
 			} else {
 				if (!nd->root.mnt)
 					set_root(nd);
@@ -954,9 +956,9 @@ follow_link(struct path *link, struct nameidata *nd, void **p)
 				nd->path = nd->root;
 				path_get(&nd->root);
 			}
+			nd->inode = nd->path.dentry->d_inode;
 			nd->flags |= LOOKUP_JUMPED;
 		}
-		nd->inode = nd->path.dentry->d_inode;
 		error = link_path_walk(s, nd);
 		if (unlikely(error))
 			put_link(nd, link, inode, *p);

[-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 811 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-24  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-20 18:12 [RFC][PATCHSET] non-recursive link_path_walk() and reducing stack footprint Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 01/24] lustre: rip the private symlink nesting limit out Al Viro
2015-04-20 19:08   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-04-20 19:22     ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 20:35       ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 02/24] VFS: replace {, total_}link_count in task_struct with pointer to nameidata Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 03/24] ovl: rearrange ovl_follow_link to it doesn't need to call ->put_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 04/24] VFS: replace nameidata arg to ->put_link with a char* Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 05/24] SECURITY: remove nameidata arg from inode_follow_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 06/24] VFS: remove nameidata args from ->follow_link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 07/24] namei: expand nested_symlink() in its only caller Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 08/24] namei.c: separate the parts of follow_link() that find the link body Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 09/24] namei: fold follow_link() into link_path_walk() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 10/24] link_path_walk: handle get_link() returning ERR_PTR() immediately Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 11/24] link_path_walk: don't bother with walk_component() after jumping link Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 12/24] link_path_walk: turn inner loop into explicit goto Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 13/24] link_path_walk: massage a bit more Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 14/24] link_path_walk: get rid of duplication Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 15/24] link_path_walk: final preparations to killing recursion Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 16/24] link_path_walk: kill the recursion Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:32     ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:51         ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-20 21:59           ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 21:52         ` Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 17/24] link_path_walk: split "return from recursive call" path Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 18/24] link_path_walk: cleanup - turn goto start; into continue; Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 19/24] namei: fold may_follow_link() into follow_link() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 20/24] namei: introduce nameidata->stack Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 21/24] namei: regularize use of put_link() and follow_link(), trim arguments Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 22/24] namei: trim the arguments of get_link() Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 23/24] new ->follow_link() and ->put_link() calling conventions Al Viro
2015-04-20 18:13 ` [PATCH 24/24] uninline walk_component() Al Viro
2015-04-21 14:49 ` [RFC][PATCHSET] non-recursive link_path_walk() and reducing stack footprint Al Viro
2015-04-21 15:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-04-21 15:12     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-21 15:45       ` Al Viro
2015-04-21 16:46         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-21 21:20         ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 18:07           ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 20:12             ` Al Viro
2015-04-22 21:05               ` Al Viro
2015-04-23  7:45                 ` NeilBrown
2015-04-23 18:07                   ` Al Viro
2015-04-24  6:35                     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2015-04-24 13:42                       ` Al Viro
2015-05-04  5:11                         ` Al Viro
2015-05-04  7:30                           ` NeilBrown
2015-04-23  5:01           ` Al Viro
2015-04-21 14:51 ` [PATCH] logfs: fix a pagecache leak for symlinks Al Viro

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20150424163534.6eb109eb@notabene.brown \
    --to=neilb@suse.de \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.