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From: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Hefty, Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	"Wan, Kaike" <kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Hal Rosenstock
	(hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org)"
	<hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Fleck,
	John" <john.fleck-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] IB/sa: route SA pathrecord query through netlink
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:15:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150519231526.GA25187@phlsvsds.ph.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FDD2D8-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 02:27:22PM -0600, Hefty, Sean wrote:
> > I have mixed feelings about using the SA message format for this.
> > 
> > In-kernel we don't use that format, and many of the newer APIs were
> > designed around passing the GMP,Forward,Return path tuple, not just a
> > naked GMP.
> 
> I think the choice of the netlink protocol is a largely matter of taste.  In the internal review of these patches, the netlink hook was previously in the mad layer, which would have allowed redirecting any mad to user space.  (The code only attempted to redirect SA queries.)  Trying to hook from within ib_mad added a fair amount of complexity, that moving up into sa_query avoided.  The proposed interface would allow moving the changes back down, versus limiting this only to the SA query calls.  (And I'm not meaning to imply that limiting this only to SA queries is a bad choice.)
> 
> > I'd rather see the netlink data ask for what the kernel needs (eg UD
> > path to X, RC path to X) and return the new format we've already
> > established for AF_IB
> 
> Does anyone else have input on the netlink protocol?  Hal/Ira?  MADs seem more flexible, but higher-level structures more efficient and natural.


The idea was to implement a local SA cache.  Nothing more.  A lot of what is
being discussed is beyond the intent of the patches.

Ira

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-18 19:00 [PATCH 0/3] Sending kernel pathrecord query to user cache server kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found] ` <1431975616-23529-1-git-send-email-kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-18 19:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] IB/netlink: Add defines for MAD requests through netlink kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]     ` <1431975616-23529-2-git-send-email-kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19  5:36       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <CAJ3xEMj7cWuUYDvEtpLP93spQk52K=DN8Nw7bTD9RBt=LStaFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 11:38           ` Wan, Kaike
2015-05-18 19:00   ` [PATCH 2/3] IB/core: Check the presence of netlink multicast group listeners kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]     ` <1431975616-23529-3-git-send-email-kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19  4:51       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <555AC156.7070106-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 11:43           ` Wan, Kaike
2015-05-19 17:16           ` Hefty, Sean
2015-05-18 19:00   ` [PATCH 3/3] IB/sa: route SA pathrecord query through netlink kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]     ` <1431975616-23529-4-git-send-email-kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19  5:00       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <555AC36D.5050904-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 12:24           ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]             ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB0CAB243E-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:30               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                 ` <CAJ3xEMhkpYYtzrsOw=8JQOekpVT6xQC9P2itH3H3oAjjPfWrng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:42                   ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]                     ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB0CAB2677-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:51                       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                         ` <CAJ3xEMj8zmqj_3=ms9CXxrFVmmk7ZHHtcPXGJcAO24n1U_MSiQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:17                           ` Weiny, Ira
     [not found]                             ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E11082B44-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:21                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20150519192141.GS18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:26                                   ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                                     ` <20150519192614.GA31717-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:28                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20150519192842.GB23612-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20  9:05                                           ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                                             ` <20150520090505.GA19896-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 16:13                                               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FDD971-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 16:25                                                   ` ira.weiny
2015-05-20 17:34                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-19 19:58                                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                     ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FDD2A9-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 20:29                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-19  6:49       ` Ilya Nelkenbaum
     [not found]         ` <555ADCE3.5080301-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 12:57           ` Wan, Kaike
2015-05-19 19:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150519190742.GO18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 20:27           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]             ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FDD2D8-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 20:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20150519204936.GB24622-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 21:20                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                     ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FDD36A-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 23:53                       ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                         ` <20150519235303.GA32281-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20  0:22                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-19 23:15               ` ira.weiny [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20150519231526.GA25187-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 23:55                   ` Wan, Kaike

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