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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:27:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624132705.GA8267@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6798439.9m13YiNnBb@merkaba>


* Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:05:02 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> > Not because I like it so much, but because I think the merge process
> > should be  stripped of politics and emotion as much as possible: if an
> > initial submission is good and addresses all technical review properly,
> > and if the cost to the core kernel is low, then barring alternative,
> > fully equivalent and superior patch submissions, rejecting it does more
> > harm than good.
> 
> Now that is an interesting challenge.
> 
> As I realize more and more we are all feeling beings.
> 
> Linus himself according to his own words as I received them wants to make 
> perfectly sure that the developer who receives a message from him exactly 
> knows how he feels, especially when he disagrees with a pull request and 
> does not want to take it.

So that twists what I said: how 'I feel about a pull request' is a technical term 
for: 'what is my subjective but rational technological opinion' about it.

That's not an invitation to be irrationally emotional. (I'm reasonably sure that's 
what Linus meant there too, but I don't speak for him.)

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-23  6:06 kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:41 ` Greg KH
2015-06-23  7:22   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-23  9:25     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:38       ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 15:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-25  2:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  2:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-25  6:01           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25  6:05             ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 13:34               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-25 14:03                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-08 13:54   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-09  8:39     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 10:29       ` Joe Perches
2015-07-09 10:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 11:36       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-24  0:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24  8:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 10:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 10:46     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 17:39         ` David Lang
2015-06-24 18:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 18:50           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 19:12             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-25 15:26                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  6:31           ` Greg KH
2015-06-25  6:48             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-25  7:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 11:43     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:27       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-24  9:55 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 14:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CAHr-LrYWNwv6_YLoP-B3duQ1QsjPiTiaEnjBQ7j2brPMeTgA3A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrW3F6YP_H1oRJa47f1DT7B35OubhJYSnq0U-_GmFQHNOA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-24 17:11         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 19:43           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 20:45             ` Alexander Larsson
2015-08-03 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-04  8:58   ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 13:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-04 14:09       ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 14:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-05  0:18           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  7:06             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 15:27               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 17:24                 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-05  7:10           ` David Herrmann
2015-08-05 20:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  8:04               ` David Herrmann
2015-08-06  8:25                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-08-06 15:21                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 18:14                   ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 18:43                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-07 14:40                       ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-07 15:09                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CA+55aFxDLt-5+=xXeYG4nJKMb8L_iD9FmwTZ2VuughBku-mW3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-09 19:00                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-09 22:11                             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-09 22:11                               ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-10  2:10                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10  2:10                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10 17:04                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10 17:04                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10  2:48                             ` David Lang
2015-08-07 15:37                       ` cee1
2015-07-01  0:03 Kalle A. Sandstrom
2015-07-01 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-07-06 21:18   ` Kalle A. Sandstrom

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