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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <ghostwcy@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 07/16] Add new block driver interface to connect/disconnect the remote target
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:07:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624140755.GC2206@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5584DEA8.80005@gmail.com>

* Wen Congyang (ghostwcy@gmail.com) wrote:
> At 2015/6/19 18:49, Stefan Hajnoczi Wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:54:56AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>On 06/19/2015 12:06 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:36:39PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>>At 2015/6/18 20:55, Stefan Hajnoczi Wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 04:49:12PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>>>>+void bdrv_connect(BlockDriverState *bs, Error **errp)
> >>>>>>+{
> >>>>>>+    BlockDriver *drv = bs->drv;
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+    if (drv && drv->bdrv_connect) {
> >>>>>>+        drv->bdrv_connect(bs, errp);
> >>>>>>+    } else if (bs->file) {
> >>>>>>+        bdrv_connect(bs->file, errp);
> >>>>>>+    } else {
> >>>>>>+        error_setg(errp, "this feature or command is not currently supported");
> >>>>>>+    }
> >>>>>>+}
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+void bdrv_disconnect(BlockDriverState *bs)
> >>>>>>+{
> >>>>>>+    BlockDriver *drv = bs->drv;
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+    if (drv && drv->bdrv_disconnect) {
> >>>>>>+        drv->bdrv_disconnect(bs);
> >>>>>>+    } else if (bs->file) {
> >>>>>>+        bdrv_disconnect(bs->file);
> >>>>>>+    }
> >>>>>>+}
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Please add doc comments describing the semantics of these commands.
> >>>>
> >>>>Where should it be documented? In the header file?
> >>>
> >>>block.h doesn't document prototypes in the header file, please document
> >>>the function definition in block.c.  (QEMU is not consistent here, some
> >>>places do it the other way around.)
> >>>
> >>>>>Why are these operations needed when there is already a bs->drv == NULL
> >>>>>case which means the BDS is not ready for read/write?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>The purpos is that: don't connect to nbd server when opening a nbd client.
> >>>>connect/disconnect
> >>>>to nbd server when we need to do it.
> >>>>
> >>>>IIUC, if bs->drv is NULL, it means that the driver is ejected? Here,
> >>>>connect/disconnect
> >>>>means that connect/disconnect to remote target(The target may be in another
> >>>>host).
> >>>
> >>>Connect/disconnect puts something on the QEMU command-line that isn't
> >>>ready at startup time.
> >>>
> >>>How about using monitor commands to add objects when needed instead?
> >>>
> >>>That is cleaner because it doesn't introduce a new state (which is only
> >>>implemented for nbd).
> >>>
> >>
> >>The problem is that, nbd client is one child of quorum, and quorum must have more
> >>than one child. The nbd server is not ready until colo is running.
> >
> >A monitor command to hot add/remove quorum children solves this problem
> >and could also be used in other scenarios (e.g. user decides to take a
> >quorum child offline).
> >
> 
> For replication case, we always do checkpoint again and again after
> migration. If the disk is not synced before migration, we will use disk mirgation or mirror
> job to sync it.

Can you document the way that you use disk migration or mirror, together
with your COLO setup?   I think it would make it easier to understand this
restriction.
At the moment I don't understand how you can switch from doing a disk migration
into COLO mode - there seems to be a gap between the end of disk migration and the start
of COLO.

> So we cannot start block replication when migration is running. We need
> that nbd
> client is not ready when migration is running, and it is ready between
> migration ends
> and checkpoint begins. Using a monotir command add the nbd client will cause
> larger
> downtime. So if the nbd client has been added(only not connect to the nbd
> server),
> we can connect to nbd server automatically.

Without the disk migration or mirror, I can't see the need for the delayed bdrv_connect.
I can see that you want to do a disconnect at failover, however you need
to take care because if the network is broken at the point of failover
you need to make sure nothing blocks.

Dave

> 
> Thanks
> Wen Congyang
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-18  8:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 00/16] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 01/16] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 10:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18 10:51     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 02/16] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 03/16] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 04/16] block: Parse "backing_reference" option to reference existing BDS Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 10:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18 11:40     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 05/16] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 06/16] Don't allow a disk use backing reference target Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 12:47   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18 15:17     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 07/16] Add new block driver interface to connect/disconnect the remote target Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 12:55   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18 14:36     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 16:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-19  0:54         ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-19 10:49           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-20  3:31             ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-22 12:39               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-22 13:56                 ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-23 13:42                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-23 13:54                     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-24 14:07               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2015-06-25  1:01                 ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-26 19:03                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-06-29  1:05                     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-30 19:01                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-01  1:01                         ` Wen Congyang
2015-07-01  8:11                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-01  8:18                             ` Wen Congyang
2015-07-01 18:42                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-02  0:55                                 ` Wen Congyang
2015-07-02  7:54                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-02  8:05                                     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-24  1:11             ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-23  6:44         ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 08/16] NBD client: implement block driver interfaces to connect/disconnect NBD server Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 09/16] Introduce a new -drive option to control whether to connect to remote target Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 10/16] NBD client: connect to nbd server later Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 11/16] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 12/16] skip nbd_target when starting " Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 13/16] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 13:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 14/16] introduce a new API qemu_opts_absorb_qdict_by_index() Wen Congyang
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 15/16] quorum: allow ignoring child errors Wen Congyang
2015-06-18 13:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-18  8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 16/16] Implement new driver for block replication Wen Congyang

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