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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
Cc: Hemant Kumar <hemant@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 00/16] perf-probe --cache and SDT support
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:24:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150719042412.GB24219@danjae.kornet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55A874C6.5030202@hitachi.com>

Hi Masami,

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:21:42PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Now I'm thinking that we should avoid using %event syntax for perf-list
> and perf-record to avoid confusion. For example, suppose that we have
> "libfoo:bar" SDT event, when we just scanned the libfoo binary and
> use it via perf-record, we'll run perf record -e "%libfoo:bar".
> However, after we set the probe via perf-probe, we have to run
> perf record -e "libfoo:bar". That difference looks no good.
> So, I think in both case it should accept -e "libfoo:bar" syntax.

I don't remember how the SDT events should be shown to users.  Sorry
if I'm missing something here.

AFAIK an SDT event consists of a provider and an event name.  So it
can be simply 'provider:event' like tracepoints or
'binary:provider_event' like uprobes.

I like the former because it's simpler but it needs to guarantee that
it doesn't clash with existing tracepoints/[ku]probes.  So IIUC we
chose the '%' sign to distinguish them.  But after setting a probe at
it, the group name should be the binary name.  So the whole event name
might be changed, and this is not good.

So we should use the latter form.  But in this case, I think we need a
way to distinguish provider and event names.  Since the provider name
also can include '_' characters in it.  And maybe it still needs to
distinguish an SDT event and its probe for some reason.  In that case,
we might use 'sdt:provider_event' form or something like that.

Thanks,
Namhyung


> 
> In this series I've introduced %event syntax only to recall cached event
> setting explicitly, because perf-probe is a lower layer tool to set up
> new event. IMO, perf-list and perf-record should be higher tools which
> handle abstract events.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-19  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-15  9:13 [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 00/16] perf-probe --cache and SDT support Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 01/16] perf probe: Simplify __add_probe_trace_events code Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-21  9:34   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 02/16] perf probe: Move ftrace probe-event operations to probe-file.c Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-21  9:35   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 03/16] perf probe: Use strbuf for making strings in probe-event.c Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-17  7:42   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-17 10:16     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 04/16] perf-buildid-cache: Use path/to/bin/buildid/elf instead of path/to/bin/buildid Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 05/16] perf buildid: Use SBUILD_ID_SIZE macro Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-20 18:47   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-21  9:35   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 06/16] perf buildid: Introduce sysfs/filename__sprintf_build_id Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 07/16] perf: Add lsdir to read a directory Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 08/16] perf-buildid-cache: Use lsdir for looking up buildid caches Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:14 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 09/16] perf probe: Add --cache option to cache the probe definitions Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 10/16] perf probe: Use cache entry if possible Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 11/16] perf probe: Show all cached probes Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 12/16] perf probe: Remove caches when --cache is given Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 13/16] perf/sdt: ELF support for SDT Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 14/16] perf probe: Add group name support Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-19 10:16   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-20  4:48     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-20 15:31       ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 15/16] perf buildid-cache: Scan and import user SDT events to probe cache Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-19 10:46   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-20  3:19     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-20 15:52       ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-21 10:42         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-15  9:15 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 16/16] perf probe: Accept %sdt and %cached event name Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-19 10:53   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-20  3:03     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-16  3:13 ` [RFC PATCH perf/core v2 00/16] perf-probe --cache and SDT support Hemant Kumar
2015-07-17  3:21   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-19  4:24     ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2015-07-20  5:47       ` Brendan Gregg
2015-07-20 16:20         ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-21 10:34           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-22 14:12     ` Hemant Kumar
2015-07-23 13:13       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-23 14:01         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-23 16:24           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-23 16:42             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-24  7:55             ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-24 15:52               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-25  0:51                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-27 14:03                 ` Re: " Namhyung Kim
2015-07-27 15:16                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-28  0:42                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-28 13:45                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-20 18:36 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-07-20 18:42   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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